Morland Family - Fulham area 1820s

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1861 Census Municipal Ward Portman, St Marylebone
Samuel Thorne 66 Coachman born Romford Essex
Jane 62   born Coleshill Warwickshire.

Possible death for Samuel 1866 age 71 registered a St George Hanover.

This should be the correct Thomas and Margaret Thorne
Children baptized at St Mary Marylebone
John Morland Thorne born 2 March 1845, bap 23 March 1845 address 46 Upper Harley Street.
William Thorne born 9 June 1848 bap 30 June 1848 address 24 Clarges Street Piccadilly.
Thomas Thorne born 26 October 1846, bap 15 November 1846 address 41 Devonshire Mews
(same address as 1851 census with grandparents)
Henry Thorne born 10 November 1850 bap 1 December 1850 address Coach & Horses Yard Burlington Street.

Baptized at St James Westminster
Margaret Elizabeth Thorne born 16 September 1854 bap 9 October 1854.
transcription only no image on ancestry so do not have the address.
Unfortunately she dies 1866 age 12 registered at St Marylebone.

I haven't found Margaret Elizabeth in 1861.

Have you tried the Maritime Museum at Greenwich for information on John Morland the mariner?

The East of London Family History Society are also very helpful 

[dawnsh]

Churches no longer hold their old records.   If the Fulham baptisms for those years still exist, they'd be at the London Metropolian Archives

Not always, a number in London & Middlesex are still at the church

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=430983.0

Details of deposited registers for Hammersmith & Fulham parishes can be found here

https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/family-history/Documents/london-metropolitan-archives-hammersmith-and-fulham-london-generations-guide.pdf

[Lily M]

So it appears, from dawnsh' LMA link, that Ancestry have the records for All Saints, Fulham 1813-1828, but haven't put them on the website.  Pity.

[Lily M]

I've just spoken to someone at London Metropolitan Archives.

Was told that their information that Ancestry have the 1813-1828 baptisms is incorrect.  They're now going to amend their information sheet.

LMA do hold the baptisms themselves though.

[croz]

In reply to Moderator comment on my previous post which included census details

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The information I posted was taken directly ("copy and pasted") from the FamilySearch.org website and NOT from any subscription site .I do not have a FamilySearch.org account - I use the "Free Account" access and as far as I am aware the data available has no  copyright or other restriction on sharing  ?

[croz]

I've just spoken to someone at London Metropolitan Archives.

Was told that their information that Ancestry have the 1813-1828 baptisms is incorrect.  They're now going to amend their information sheet.

LMA do hold the baptisms themselves though.

Thanks for this - is there an easy way to get access to that material without physically visiting LMA ?

[Lily M]

I'm fed up with doing the ironing.   I'll go there now, so we can at least get pass this baptism hurdle.

If it's there, I should be able to see it in about 40-50 mins.  Will get back to you with results - I hope.

[croz]

What can I say....that is so very kind of you....thank you very much

😊 Martin

[Lily M]

No great effort needed Martin.  I have an OAP travel pass, so it doesn't cost me anything.

Now I don't know if this is a help or hindrance.

Fulham parish church baptisms

22nd June 1817
Margaret Elizabeth Morland dau.of John and Sarah Ann - gent.

4th June 1820
Ann Selina Morland dau.of John and Sarah Ann - carpenter

7th June 1822
John Morland son of John and Sarah Ann - carpenter

All lliving at Walham Green

I've taken photocopies in case they're needed.