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Richard Thomas Newill born in Chicago.
« on: Thursday 01 December 16 20:13 GMT (UK) »
I am searching for the birth of the above gentleman & who his parents were.  On the 1911 UK census he's living in Portislade, Somerset with his wife Rose & 3 children.  He's 43 years old, born around 1868, birthplace Chicago, Ill, resident of USA.  No job, as it says "not allowed to work" presumably because he's not a UK resident by birth & has become a UK citizen yet??  He's been married 6 years.   
I can't find him on a passenger list coming to UK which I'm assuming was between 1901,[as he's not on the 1901 census,] & 1905.
Please can anyone shed light on this man's family???
I think I've found a marriage for him in 1888 to Mary Kennedy who died in 1905 aged 29.   There's also a child named Mary I Newell, spelt with an E not an I, b 1894 who died in 1897 aged 3.  Both mother & daughter, if they are indeed mother & daughter are buried in Oakwoods Cemetery in Chicago.
I'd appreciate any help anyone can give me re his parents & possible siblings etc.
Thanks so much,
Amberly.
Roberts,Guilsfield area, Mont.    Beattie, Welshpool, Mont         Newill, Welshpool & Shrops.      Gwyther, London.                    Cureton, Shrops & London.       Whitfield, Shrops.                        Dickin, Shrops & Mont.               Barker, London.

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Re: Richard Thomas Newill born in Chicago.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 December 16 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Looked at the children first

NEWILL, CHRISTOPHER  THOMAS      
Mother's maiden name BUSS

NEWILL, CHRISTOPHER  THOMAS      BUSS

NEWILL, RHODA  MARY      
Mother's maiden name CROUCHER

Richard Thomas Newill married Rose Buss 1905 Brighton 2B/352 Q1



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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Richard Thomas Newill born in Chicago.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 December 16 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you!  I have all this, it's the Chicago, US info I can't find.    Amberly

Roberts,Guilsfield area, Mont.    Beattie, Welshpool, Mont         Newill, Welshpool & Shrops.      Gwyther, London.                    Cureton, Shrops & London.       Whitfield, Shrops.                        Dickin, Shrops & Mont.               Barker, London.

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Re: Richard Thomas Newill born in Chicago.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 December 16 07:49 GMT (UK) »
Court proceedings in Chicago in 1904 -  "Mary Newill vs Richard T. Newill"

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/34504433/
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Re: Richard Thomas Newill born in Chicago.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 December 16 07:54 GMT (UK) »
On the 1901 census in Portsmouth. A visitor in the household of Harriett Loten:

Richard T Newill age 42(refused) - living on own means - American Subject
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Re: Richard Thomas Newill born in Chicago.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 December 16 08:08 GMT (UK) »
I am sure you will have seen references to Richard Thomas Newill born 1855 in Chatham, Kent. He seems to have served in both the Royal Navy (1870's) and the US Navy (1880's).  Just wondering if this could be the same person.

I think you will need to get the 1905 marriage certificate to find out his father's name.

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Re: Richard Thomas Newill born in Chicago.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 December 16 09:06 GMT (UK) »
"Richard Thomas Newill was charged at the Police court on Thursday with being drunk and disorderly in Chapel Street, Newhaven..."

(Sussex Agricultural Express, 16 November 1901)
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Re: Richard Thomas Newill born in Chicago.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 December 16 09:30 GMT (UK) »
I am sure you will have seen references to Richard Thomas Newill born 1855 in Chatham, Kent. He seems to have served in both the Royal Navy (1870's) and the US Navy (1880's).  Just wondering if this could be the same person.

I think you will need to get the 1905 marriage certificate to find out his father's name.

Could well be the same person, nothing showing in US census for someone of that name in Chicago.

IF
it is the one born Medway, Richard is with his mother and siblings in Medway Union Workhouse in 1861.
Richard Thomas Newill -   Maiden Surname Of Mother - Scrivens      
GRO Reference: 1855  J Quarter in MEDWAY  Volume 02A  Page 278

There was a marriage Saint Marys,Portsea,Hampshire,England - 10 February 1838 of William Newill to Martha Scrivens -

Mother Martha Newill passed away 1878 Portsea Island - 2b 360

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Re: Richard Thomas Newill born in Chicago.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 December 16 09:31 GMT (UK) »
Notice on the 1871 Census Blockhouse Fort Portsmouth Harbour  Portsea Island Portsmouth -  Richard Newill - born Chatham 1855 - Boy 2 Class (Boy) not on board. (coincidental that there is a Naval Theme ???)

Date of birth 2 April 1955 - Date of voulnteering 5 October 1869 - Continuous Service Number:   10337B

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