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Re: immigration ports, Victoria Aus.
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 00:47 GMT (UK) »
Sands 1890 Sydney directory has THREE listings for Charles BRADY.   One is an accountant, one is a bootmaker and one does not have a profession listed.

(edited to remove  some info that has no bearing on the enquiry).

The NSW BDM online index has the Scone marriage as 11 April 1892 and the Waverley marriage as 1 December 1892.

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/search-our-collections/sands-directory

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Re: immigration ports, Victoria Aus.
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 04:54 GMT (UK) »
Florence was one of the children born to William (Thomas William Jnr) and wife Florence(nee  LAMBELL)

This seems to be her death, with an extra given name added.
 

PLATT Marjorie Florenc
Father Brady William
Mother Florence Mau  LAMBELL
Death Place CHEL
Age 76
Year 1967
Reg 23501

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Re: immigration ports, Victoria Aus.
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 06:23 GMT (UK) »
Can't locate Gladys Ethel BRADY, the other child  born to William (Thomas William Jnr) and wife Florence(nee  LAMBELL). Someone else may have success.

Florence Maude remarried in NSW and had further children.

She died there

GARDNER Florence Maude
11627/1940
William Edward & Matilda
At TAMWORTH

The father's correct given names were William Blackmore (LAMBELL)

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« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 08:04 GMT (UK) »
She died there

GARDNER Florence Maude
11627/1940
William Edward & Matilda
At TAMWORTH

She's buried at TAMWORTH Cemetery:

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Re: immigration ports, Victoria Aus.
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 08:14 GMT (UK) »
Burial of father and son.
The two are buried together at Springvale Cemetery.
Location for both
C of E. Comp. C.
Grave 1103A
Date- Thomas William   BRADY 15/1/1897
Date-Thomas William BRADY  7/4/1917

Acutally, they are buried at ST KILDA Cemetery & there are three males in the same grave:

https://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/9723S

https://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/13071S

https://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/13427S

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Re: immigration ports, Victoria Aus.
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 08:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. I would like to try to establish if Charles Robert moved to set up in Sydney (before or after the marriage) or whether he took his bride back to Victoria, where there seems to be a singular lack of evidence until perhaps his death. He seems to have held on to both his given names, but of course I may be wrong here. Does a Charles Robert occur in later directories, please?
HOLLINSHED, BRADY of Orford, Suffolk, Essex, Woolley, Stockport & London; THURSTON, SYER, CRABBE, ALLDIS, RIPPER, BATTALAY, BATELL. CHANDLER of Suffolk; PARR, &LAKE & LONG, Essex; WIKE, of Bury, London & Canterbury; OPENSHAW, ORMEROD of Bury, Lancs; BROTHERSON of St. Croix; MANGNALL & CUNLIFFE of Stockport; BEECH of Broughton; BARNETT, INGRAM of Lincs & Cambs; BRODIE/BRADY  North East Scotland; PAGE, GRAY, McKENZIE, McDOWELL, HOLT & MARTIN N.Ireland

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Re: immigration ports, Victoria Aus.
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Burial of father and son.
The two are buried together at Springvale Cemetery.
Location for both
C of E. Comp. C.
Grave 1103A
Date- Thomas William   BRADY 15/1/1897
Date-Thomas William BRADY  7/4/1917

Acutally, they are buried at ST KILDA Cemetery & there are three males in the same grave:

https://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/9723S

https://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/13071S

https://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/13427S

Thanks Merlin for your timely corrections ;D

Here are the details of the burial for Florence Maud(e) at Tamworth Cemetery
GARDNER, Florence Maude   
Date   13 Apr 1940
Age   72y
Remarks   (dau/William Edward & Matilda)
Location Ang Z3    

Hi to you BradyCMH
Wondering whether it might be more helpful for you in your searches if you were to set out exactly what you are looking for.

At this stage there is not a lot of "feedback" from you regarding the findings made for you and one wonders whether we are offering information already held by you?

Thank you. I would like to try to establish if Charles Robert moved to set up in Sydney (before or after the marriage) or whether he took his bride back to Victoria, where there seems to be a singular lack of evidence until perhaps his death. He seems to have held on to both his given names, but of course I may be wrong here. Does a Charles Robert occur in later directories, please?


I think if you read the information already given, and note locations it will clarify things for you.
you need to read the links within the posts.

Charles Robert BRADY appears on the Victorian Electoral Roll from about 1906 to 1943.

This is possibly his death

BRADY Chas Robt
Father Unknown
Mother Unknown  UNKNOWN
Death BBURN
Age 69
Year 1944
Reg   2495

Sue


This man appears to have been a bookkeeper/accountant for his working life on the Vic E. Rolls. He was a pensioner at his last E. Roll entry





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Re: immigration ports, Victoria Aus.
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Sue,

Basically I set out to find out more about what happened to Thomas William Senior on arriving in Australia, whether he was a prospector or merely got engaged perhaps in supporting supplies or related industries.  Is an address indicated where he moved to in Indigo? Then of course I wanted to know more about his family and whether there are any descendants today.
You’ve all served me well and introduced me to some useful research media, for which I’m most grateful.  The newspaper disclosures were to say the least unexpected nor completely agreeable,  but they nevertheless help to paint an overall picture and to present some lessons for our younger family members, both here in England as well as those who have subsequently moved to Melbourne. Isn’t that half the purpose of Family History...to learn? 
The family history I was very kindly directed to turns out largely to be about the English family (some of it incorrect I must say) and some I believe originating from our own old family records which are available to the  public here in UK) .Some useful Oz snippets have emerged too...thanks again.
If there is any evidence I haven’t found on Charles Robert that would support his having had children I would be glad to know of it; as also information about Thomas William’s early residence and employment in Indigo...or at least a lead to where I can find more out.

Mike br.
 
Thomas William Senior was the Eldest Son of my great great great uncle Thomas, father of Alice Louisa, Thomas William, Elizabeth Margaret & Charles Robert..
HOLLINSHED, BRADY of Orford, Suffolk, Essex, Woolley, Stockport & London; THURSTON, SYER, CRABBE, ALLDIS, RIPPER, BATTALAY, BATELL. CHANDLER of Suffolk; PARR, &LAKE & LONG, Essex; WIKE, of Bury, London & Canterbury; OPENSHAW, ORMEROD of Bury, Lancs; BROTHERSON of St. Croix; MANGNALL & CUNLIFFE of Stockport; BEECH of Broughton; BARNETT, INGRAM of Lincs & Cambs; BRODIE/BRADY  North East Scotland; PAGE, GRAY, McKENZIE, McDOWELL, HOLT & MARTIN N.Ireland

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Re: immigration ports, Victoria Aus.
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Sands 1890 Sydney directory has THREE listings for Charles BRADY.   One is an accountant, one is a bootmaker and one does not have a profession listed. ........
http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/search-our-collections/sands-directory 
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Thank you. I would like to try to establish if Charles Robert moved to set up in Sydney (before or after the marriage) or whether he took his bride back to Victoria, where there seems to be a singular lack of evidence until perhaps his death. He seems to have held on to both his given names, but of course I may be wrong here. Does a Charles Robert occur in later directories, please?

Hi there,

My reply #27  included the live link to the entire free to search for the reliable Sydney & NSW Sands directories so that you would have the pleasure of undertaking the search.  There's plenty of live links to free to search websites (including Sands Sydney Directories) available via RChat's resources boards, including:
Australia http://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/
Victoria http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369963.0
NSW http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369703.0

Have you considered obtaining official transcriptions for the two entries in the NSW BDM free to search online index for marriages?  (See reply # 26 to your #20 'Can anyone explain that')


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