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Re: John Herald Barr
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 December 16 22:02 GMT (UK) »
The Canada Ocean Arrival form for Elizabeth says she was born in Clydebank ( nb Ancestry index gives her age as 47 but it is clearly age 4 on the original.)Possible birth on SP of an Elizabeth Millar Barr in Inchinnan in 1916.
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Re: John Herald Barr
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 December 16 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Would say this would be the death for the son Ronald Barr some confusing information
Ronald M Barr birth 11 August 1922
Canada
( San Jose California )
Died 19 the April 1972 San Mateo
Father Jack Barr
Mother Molley M Barr
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Re: John Herald Barr
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 December 16 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Death maybe for Molley Barr ?
Molley Fee birth dated 20 April 1890 other county
Died 17 April 1977 San Mateo
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Re: John Herald Barr
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 December 16 19:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to everyone that replied to my post. I was hoping to get a date for the births of Elizabeth and Mazie Barr, maybe I could find them through death records. I found Mazie in 1938 in San Jose, California as a maid, but nothing on Elizabeth. Can't find any of the family in 1940 census, not even Ronald who died in 1972. Thanks again for the help.


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Re: John Herald Barr
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 December 16 06:40 GMT (UK) »
I've not yet found them in 1940, but in case you don't have three of them in 1938:

1938 San Jose, California Directory
Mrs. Mollie Barr, maid, h 778 S 5th
Ronald Barr, r778 S 5th
Mazie Barr, maid Hotel California r327 S 1st

Death maybe for Molley Barr ?
Molley Fee birth dated 20 April 1890 other county
Died 17 April 1977 San Mateo
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Good find, Rosie; that could be her (although her year of birth is a bit off).  San Mateo Times Newspaper obituary: Molly was a native of Scotland.  She had lived in the area (San Mateo County?) for 25 years.  She was survived by her daughter (Eleanor) and several grandchildren.

Burial for Molly and her (2nd?) husband.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=3573433

Eleanor's burial can also be found on the above site (different cemetery and different city).
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: John Herald Barr
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 December 16 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps there's no connection but...

Monya Barr / Monya Newland
Born:  18 December 1918, Other Country
Died:  8 April 1941, Santa Cruz (California)
Father: Barr
Mother: McLachlan

1940 Santa Clara Census
Moya Newland, age 21, born Scotland, Naturalized, lived with her husband George and one son (most likely not her son, given the age of the child).

Update:  If you try an internet search for
"newland" 1941 "santa clara"
you can "read" (it's garbled) a small newspaper report in the Santa Cruz Sentinel about an automobile accident that killed Moya Newland.   :'(
(It's a pay site, but you can read the garbled text without viewing the actual newspaper.)

Moya's gravestone:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=63424168&ref=acom
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: John Herald Barr
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 December 16 07:33 GMT (UK) »
Could Mazie be Moya?   :-\
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: John Herald Barr
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 17 December 16 21:07 GMT (UK) »
Lots of great information from everyone, I believe Moya/Monya was Maize Barr, one of the passengers in the car at the time of the accident was a Ronald Barr, it says he was a brother of Mrs. Newland.

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Re: John Herald Barr
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 18 December 16 08:13 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps there's no connection but...

Monya Barr / Monya Newland
Born:  18 December 1918, Other Country
Died:  8 April 1941, Santa Cruz (California)
Father: Barr
Mother: McLachlan

Good find Lisa
Rosie