Looking for French connections to Sarah Ellen O'Bryan (born 1858)

[SarahEliza]

Hello,
I'm researching my ancestor Sarah Ellen O'Bryan who was born in 1858 in Newcastle upon Tyne. She was married to William Beldon (born 1858) and they had three daughters; Annie b. 1878, Frances b. 1880 and Eva Nathalie (known as Nathalie) b. 1890. I believe that Sarah gave birth to a couple of children in the 1880s who died in infancy. Sarah had two marriages. She later married Robert Simpson Bird.

I'm posting because some years ago, a relative mentioned that either Sarah's mother or grandmother was believed to have been French. However, I've looked into this and I can't find anyone French. Sarah's family seem to be Anglo-Irish. Her father Richard was born in Ireland and her mother Ann / Anna in England.

I'm wondering if I've been tracing the correct family line (the name O'Bryan often appears as O'Brien and even Brien), or perhaps I've overlooked something significant or perhaps my relative was confusing Sarah with someone else. If anyone is researching this line and has found anybody French , I'd love to hear.

Many Thanks.

[keyboard86]

Hi the Sarah Ellen you show with parents Richard & Ann appears to have been born Winlaton, Gateshead, Durham, the family are in Newcastle upon Tyne in 1871, Richard occ Coachman b Ireland
Census Ref RG10/5083/50/11

Sarah O'BRYINE aged 12 Visitor b Winlaton is with a James and Elizabeth Parker and family in Newcastle upon Tyne
Census Ref RG10/5092/97/37

EDIT Sarah E Bryan aged 2 b Winlaton in 1861 census
Census Ref RG09/3808/50/40
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again, I believe when she married Robert Simpson Bird she gives her place of birth as Derwent Villa, which is where the 1861 family are living in Gateshead.
Keyboard86

[Mabel Bagshawe]

she appears to have lost quite a few in infancy

BELDON, WILLIAM  JOHN      
mmn BRYAN        
Q4 1881  NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 26

BELDON, WILLIAM  JOHN      
Age 1
Q2 1883  NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 12


BELDON, PERCY        
mmn BRYAN
Q3 1883 NEWCASTLE ON TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 50

BELDON, PERCY        
Age 8 [months]
Q2 1884   NEWCASTLE ON TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 11



BELDON, NELLIE        
mmn BRYAN
Q3  1885 NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 57

BELDON, ELLENOR    [?]
Age    8 [months]
Q2 1886 NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 14



BELDON, THOMAS  FREDERICK      
mmn BRYAN
Q4 1886 NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 6

BELDON, THOMAS  FREDERICK      
Age 8 [months]
q2 1887  NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 21



BELDON, LILY  THERESA
mmn BRYAN
Q3 1888 NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 8

BELDON, LILY        
Age 4 [months]
Q4 1888 NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 7

[keyboard86]

Hi from the GRO index of births Sarah Ellen Obryan Dec 1858 Gateshead 10a 523 had Mothers maiden name as Robinson, a Richard O'Bryen looks to have married an Anne Robinson Sept qtr 1851 Gateshead 24 151, in 1851 an Ann Robinson 24 b Newsham ( as 1881 census) is a House Maid for a George & Elizabeth Crawshay in Newcastle upon Tyne
Census Ref HO107/2406/174/11
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again, in 1861 census, Ann gives a pob of Kirkby Hill, this could be her in 1841 census ( No sign of French ancestry)!

Jno ( John) Robinson 40 occ Tailor
Mary 40
Ann 13
Plus other siblings all born Yorkshire residing at Kirkby Ravensworth, Newsham Census Ref HO107/1246/ 11/8 / 14
Keyboard86

[SarahEliza]

Thank you very much both keyboard86 and Mabel,
I really appreciate both of your time and effort.

They seem to be the Richard O'Brien and Anne Robinson that I've been looking into, which is reassuring, as it seemed to me that Richard was a coachman and a groom prior to that, I believe, born in Ireland. I believe that his father was also in service in Ireland.

The way that the surname O'Bryan changes so much on different documents etc. is very confusing. I didn't know of the connection with James and Elizabeth Parker and family, so thank you for that. It seemed to me that Ann's family were from Yorkshire, but I wasn't certain that I'd got the 'right' Ann. Thank you for telling me about Kirkby Hill. I didn't know this.

Also, Sarah lost more children in infancy than I thought. How unimaginably awful.

It doesn't seem then that there is any sign of French ancestry. Thanks for looking into this keyboard86. Neither of Sarah's mothers-in law were French either. I've checked. It's so baffling, as I'm not sure why this was thought to be the case.

Thank you again.