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James McCullagh
« on: Tuesday 06 December 16 17:09 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for information about my paternal grandfather, James McCullagh. I knew, initially, only that he lived in Manchester when my father was born in 1910, and that he originated from Northern Island. From a search of records on the internet, including the 1901 and 1911 censuses, I now have his death certificate, the record of his marriage (in Widnes in 1897), and also that his birthplace was recorded as County Tyrone in 'about' 1867. A search of Irish birth records gave two entries that could potentially relate to my grandfather, but I am now uncertain how to establish which, if either, of those two entries is the relevant one; and then how to make a clear connection linking it to the next recorded event that I have, the marriage in 1897. I could find no record of my grandfather in the 1891 census, so believe that he moved from Ireland to England sometime between then and 1897. I don't know where next to look to try to find further information, and any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Re: James McCullagh
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat  :)

English marriage certificates list name and occupation of both fathers so that might help find the correct person.

Ages in census records can vary greatly as can spelling (McCullough, McCulloch, McCollagh, McCollogh are just a few variations). Registration of Irish births started in 1867 so if he was born before that date then there will be no birth certificate.

Can you tell us what religion he might have been and post links to the two 'possible' Irish births that you've already found.
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Re: James McCullagh
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Hello, thanks for the reply.

I did discover that there are spelling variants in the census records - what I was looking for proved to be one - but I know to be correct as my father and his sisters were listed at the given address.

The marriage certificate did give the fathers' name, also James, which narrowed down the search of Irish birth records. I don't have to hand the links for the two births - I found them in the Ireland section of Ancestry.co.uk, to which I only have access via the local library. Of the Irish births around that time, only one specifically related to County Tyrone - in the Gortin District on 6 September 1867.  I discounted most others as they were recorded for other parts of Ireland, and the only remaining one is more vague - it doesn't give a place of birth, other than Ireland, with the correct name of father, on 1 September 1867. So, if either of these entries is relevant, my money's on the first one, but it's how to prove it. As far as I know, my grandfather was a protestant.

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Re: James McCullagh
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 20:37 GMT (UK) »
This is the James Mccullagh born 1867 Gortin district-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F55P-VMR
Wonder if this James is an older child who died young?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F52B-GJD
could this be the same family?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7RZL-LZM

Is this your James in 1901 census?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9LT-YCZ
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Re: James McCullagh
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 21:28 GMT (UK) »

Original registration for James, son of James McCullagh and Alice Rogers, born on 6 September 1867:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03475/2276505.pdf

HOWEVER, this James was baptised the next day (as James McCullow) in the RC parish of Badoney Lower and Greencastle (left page, 7th entry up from bottom):

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632985#page/6/mode/1up


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Re: James McCullagh
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 09:37 GMT (UK) »
I suspected that James and Alice McCullagh were Catholic when I saw the children listed in 1891 census.
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Re: James McCullagh
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 20:47 GMT (UK) »
Hello. Thank you for those helpful replies, the links to other sites particularly.

In response to particular points -
Is this your James in 1901 census? Yes, it is.

Wonder if this James is an older child who died young? That's a thought, although I also wonder if it's the same James McCullow that Gaffy found a baptism entry for on 7 September 1867, in which case it must be two different families.

Could this be the same family? That's an interesting one. The names and ages could fit but, although I don't know very much about my father's side of the family, I'd never heard mention of any ties to North Yorkshire. It's worth looking into, though.

I suspected that James and Alice McCullagh were Catholic when I saw the children listed in 1891 census. I'm not sure if you mean the ones listed in the entry for North Yorkshire, or is there one that I've missed?

At the moment, I do think it likely that the birth recorded on 6 September 1867 in Gortin, County Tyrone, is my grandfather. I still have the problem, though, of trying to prove it (perhaps I can't) and establish a link to the person I know to have been my grandfather in the later English census and marriage records. I'm grateful for the thoughts that you've given me, which may help take it forward, so thanks very much for that.

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Re: James McCullagh
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Will have a look later to see if the family of James and Alice can be found later in English records- if so might help eliminate the James born 6 Sept.1867.

I suspected that James and Alice McCullagh were Catholic when I saw the children listed in 1891 census. I'm not sure if you mean the ones listed in the entry for North Yorkshire, or is there one that I've missed?
The children in that 1891 census were called Michael, James and Bernard. Michael & Bernard were more apt (although not exclusively) to be Catholic names.

I'm still not convinced that the James born 6 Sept.1867 is the one you are looking for but hopefully will find more information.
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Re: James McCullagh
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Possible family tree (not complete or fully verified)- indications are that James (born 1868 Ireland) died in 1896- mother seems to be Bradley rather than Rogers?

James McCullough (c1831 Ire.-aft.1891), son of Michael, m. Alice Bradley (c1841 Ire.-aft.1891/1914 Middlesbrough?)
 marriage- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDK-XCC
1891- Stapylton St., Middlesbrough, Eston Parish, Yorks North Riding
? Death (Alice): https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2J3X-J77
1. Michael McCullough (c1864 Ire.-aft.1891/1935?) m. Frances- at least 2 children (Alice, James)
     1901- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSSV-1R6
2. James McCullough (c1868 Ire.-aft.1891/1896 Middlesbrough?)
     ? death https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2J1N-3ZS
3. Bernard McCullough (c1871 Ire.-1918 Middlesbrough) m.(1895 Middlesbrough) Bridget Pyne- daughter Alice (c1900-1902)
     1901- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSSV-1XY
     Death (Bernard) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2J4F-SD8
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