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Marriage St james Sydney 1842 Thomas LEE Ann WAIT
« on: Wednesday 07 December 16 04:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I am wondering if another pair of eyes might be able to find details on the NSW BDM Index of a marriage which occurred on 27 Jan 1842 between Thomas LEE and Ann WAIT  at St James, Sydney NSW.

I found this information on the Family Search Site, but have had no luck with the NSW BDM index.

In the SMH 6.6.1851 there is a death Notice for Ann, wife of Thomas Lee of the St Johns Tavern.

On 18.9.1851 Thomas was married to Eliza Cox, I have all the information on Thomas and Eliza's family, and am now  trying to find details of Thomas and Ann

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Re: Marriage St james Sydney 1842 Thomas LEE Ann WAIT
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 05:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cass,
  The marriage of Thomas Lee and Anne Leister or Liester took place on 27 Jan 1842 district LD

   Perhaps she was a widow and one was her maiden name and other her widowed name

Ros

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Re: Marriage St james Sydney 1842 Thomas LEE Ann WAIT
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 05:26 GMT (UK) »
Well LD is apparently St Mary's Roman Catholic Sydney so maybe not  :(

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Re: Marriage St james Sydney 1842 Thomas LEE Ann WAIT
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 05:40 GMT (UK) »
I think civil registration didn't start till the 1850s so perhaps the record never reached the BMDs.  I guess JM might be along soon to help with this!

FamilySearch definitely has the marriage as quoted by Cass.

Thomas Lee, Ann Wait
27 Jan 1842 at St. James, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Here is a link for the death Notice for Ann -
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12927732

and the Marriage notice for Thomas and Eliza COX, 18 September 1851, the time at St Lawrence church - only 3 months after the death of Ann
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12930475

Is Ann the daughter of James WAIT of Argyle?
There is a child aged 1 mentioned on a General Muster of 1825, arrived per Hoogly,

Ann WAIT, arr 1825, per Hoogley
Province:   New South Wales
Title:   General muster M - Z
Year(s):   1825
Estimated birth year:   abt 1824

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Re: Marriage St james Sydney 1842 Thomas LEE Ann WAIT
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 05:42 GMT (UK) »
Ros, thank you,

looking at the early church codes there was a number of churches named St James in the different Christian denominations , Baptist, C of E , Congregational, Presbyterian, OR where the churches in the Parish/Circuit/District called "St James".

 If St Marys was in the Parish/Circuit/District of St James you might have hit the jackpot,


Judith also a thank you

I also found that entry on the 1825 Muster but could not find any convict with a surname like Wait on the Hoogley, there is a fellow called Jonas Waight on the Countess of Harcourt in 1821 that arrived in Tasmania and  John Wait who was on the Coromondel who is listed on the 1822 general muster of Argyle.

I don't know Ann's parents names, If I can find the marriage details to Thomas Lee, I might get the certificate, however I have found the old cert do not usually include parents name, I wonder if her death certificate might help. If all else fails I will purchase the death cert.

Cass

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Re: Marriage St james Sydney 1842 Thomas LEE Ann WAIT
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 06:03 GMT (UK) »
There are plenty of events missing from the online indexes.  If it was the C of E St James I would bet that the number for the entry is 103/1842 V1842104 26C.

Marriages in the index for St James C of E (groom surname) in 1842 - Church Code CJ:

10 Jan LAYZELL 97/1842 V1842104 26C
17 Jan BROOKER 98/1842 V1842104 26C
18 Jan BARR  99/1842 V1842104 26C
19 Jan GRIMSHAW 100/1842 V1842104 26C
20 Jan SPEED 101/1842 V1842104 26C
27 Jan MATTHEWS 102/1842 V1842104 26C
Missing entry 103/1842 V1842104 26C
1 Feb VENOUR 104/1842 V1842104 26C

I would contact the Registry and ask them about that missing entry.

Debra  :D




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Re: Marriage St james Sydney 1842 Thomas LEE Ann WAIT
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 06:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Debra,

another cleaver find,

a job for me tomorrow, to contact the Registry will let you know how I get on

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Re: Marriage St james Sydney 1842 Thomas LEE Ann WAIT
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 06:52 GMT (UK) »
There is a child aged 1 mentioned on a General Muster of 1825, arrived per Hoogly,

Ann WAIT, arr 1825, per Hoogley
Province:   New South Wales
Title:   General muster M - Z
Year(s):   1825
Estimated birth year:   abt 1824

Sorry, her record shows BC=Born in the Colony  ;)

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Re: Marriage St james Sydney 1842 Thomas LEE Ann WAIT
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Is Ann the daughter of James WAIT of Argyle?
There is a child aged 1 mentioned on a General Muster of 1825, arrived per Hoogly,

Ann WAIT, arr 1825, per Hoogley
Province:   New South Wales
Title:   General muster M - Z
Year(s):   1825
Estimated birth year:   abt 1824

Many well researched records show that she was the daughter of John WAIT/WAITE & Mary ROBINSON.
http://australianroyalty.net.au/individual.php?pid=I80911&ged=purnellmccord.ged
http://australianroyalty.net.au/individual.php?pid=I80918&ged=purnellmccord.ged

She married Benjamin ALLEN 1843.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12412434