Lt. Col. Alexander Agar Agar - born 1909 died 1995. Who was he?

[rkive82]

"Alexander Agar Agar, who was a Lt. Colonel in the Indian Army prior to Independence."
So began a query from a friend.
I investigated and found a death record in February 1995 in the Isle of Wight and a birth date of 16 August 1909.
I found various travel records and notifications of his progress through the ranks in the Indian Army.
He is apparently our man, but who were his parents?
Was he born Alexander Agar Agar or not? To me that's an unlikely name to give a child.
I have a theory about who this gentleman was, but thought I'd ask for help from you smart folk out there.
Thanks
Richard

[Kay99]

Have you seen a possible marriage?

Alexander A Agar to Dulcie E Orpen in 1937 in Paddington 2nd Qtr 1A 170

Kay

[Kay99]

Dulcie Edna Agar died in Bombay in 1942 and probate granted to husband Alexander Agar Agar

[rkive82]

Thanks Kay.
I have seen this possible marriage and this is what made me wonder if A Agar Agar was not his name at birth since there's an alternative entry as Alexander A Angelsmith on the FreeBMD index.
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My friend found an Alexander Agar on a 1912 travel document with Oliver C Shelton Agar and his Alice wife Mabel and concluded that Oliver and Mabel were his parents and that this Alexander is the same person.
What do you think?
Richard

[rkive82]

"Duclie Edna Agar died in Bomaby in 1942 and probate granted to husband Alexander Agar Agar."
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Dulcie E Poulter or Orpen was on the marriage record. This makes sense and I have found no record of him remarrying.
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Richard

[Kay99]

Thanks Kay.
I have seen this possible marriage and this is what made me wonder if A Agar Agar was not his name at birth since there's an alternative entry as Alexander A Angelsmith on the FreeBMD index.
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My friend found an Alexander Agar on a 1912 travel document with Oliver C Shelton Agar and his Alice wife Mabel and concluded that Oliver and Mabel were his parents and that this Alexander is the same person.
What do you think?
Richard

The family with father Oliver look a good possibility.   Have you found them in 1911?? The marriage cert would confirm Alexander's father

[rkive82]

No. I haven't found them in 1911.
Furthermore, I copied 200 pages of information about relatives and friends of Robert Moseley Bryce Thomas earlier this year which included Oliver, Alice Mabel and six children. Alexander and Gladys, who are on the 1912 travel document, are not in the list of six children. With a birth date of 16th August 1909, it would be very unlikely that Alexander could have been born between the the other listed children.
I don't believe Alexander was their son. If he were their son, why can't I find a birth or baptism record? Would Alexander Agar Agar be a name to give their son. I doubt it.
That's why I posted here; to get another perspective.
Richard
P.S. I have to go to bed soon. 

[Kay99]

Re the name -people can be really strange.   A good friend was given the same first name as his surname by his parents !!  Could their children have been born in India?

Western Morning News 8 July 1937-  Alexander (mentions him being in the Punjab Reg) gave the bride away at a wedding in Poughill, Bude   Bride was Barbara Mary Neilson Rutherford daughter of Dr and Mrs Randolf Rutherford of Lammermuir Bude    Wonder how he knew the family??

[ShaunJ]

There's a 1934 engagement announcement The Times which concerns "Mr A Agar". He is described as Alexander Agar, son of the late Rev Walter Angelsmith and Mrs Angelsmith of Winsley, Wiltshire.

This was not his engagement to Dulcie Orpen.