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Offline David Winther

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Charters Family - Antrim
« on: Thursday 08 December 16 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I am trying to research my great-grandmothers family from/in Ireland. I seem to have run into a brick wall. If it is the end of the line I can accept that, but I thought I would ask if anyone else here might have some insight or be able to help me out.

My Great Grandmother was named Elizabeth L(ouise?) Charters. She was born on 18 June 1896.
Her birth registration appears in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index Vol 1, page 332. I haven't seen what this page actually looks like other than finding the data from it on-line.

The 1901 Census shows them living on Charlotte Street, Windsor Ward, Antrim.
Family members with age:
Robert Charters   60
Mary Charters   45
Fanny Charters   12
Eliza Charters   4
Charlotts Charters   10
Kate Charters   18
Robert W Charters   2

Finding this information was huge as prior to this all we knew was the names of her brother and sisters.

So, as the whispered family legend goes, her Mother Mary died young (I have reason to believe this happened in 1908. I had a found a civil record via the irishgeneology.ie site but now I just get an internal server error when trying to access it.) Sometime after that her father Robert said that he "could no longer take care of them" and the children became orphaned. The family does not appear in the 1911 census. I did find her brother later listed in a school for boys in Dublin in the 1911 census. It is a stretch to put that fact together but the his name and age match so its a best guess that it was him.

I haven't been able to find any kind of death certificate, marriage certificate etc for her parents. I haven't been able to find her mother's maiden name - which is something I would greatly like to do as this may open up more doors to me.

My great grandmother went to work for a doctor in Belfast. During this time "she became pregnant." We do not know the exact circumstances of this or who she became pregnant by, the family feeling is the Doctor but no one can say for sure.

So, as a pregnant orphaned young woman my great-grandmother headed to the US/Canada to meet up with her sisters already living there. I can find no crossing information for her.

She gave birth to her son John F. Charters in Detroit Michigan. She later married my great-grandfather Floyd Stephens in South Dakota (we believe she was a mail order bride). Floyd was a widower with 2 children.

I am trying in vain to find any information on her parents or any other information from her time in Ireland. She never spoke about her father. Apparently (and understandably) there was some hard feelings there.

Elizabeth died in 1986.

I would greatly appreciate any help anyone can send my way!   

Thank you very much!

-Dave

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Re: Charters Family - Antrim
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 December 16 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Birth certificate for Elizabeth Charters 18 June 1896, 31 Craigmore st., parents Robert & Mary (Glancey)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02164/1820179.pdf

Link to family in 1901 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Charlotte_Street/975083

Is this the 1908 Mary Charters death that you found? (doesn't seem to match the Belfast family)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05479/4534370.pdf

Robert Winslow Charters born 1899- 19 Apsley St.-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02021/1775616.pdf
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Re: Charters Family - Antrim
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 December 16 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to rootschat ...What about this record US Border Crossings from Canada
Elizabeth Charters age 21 birth year about 1900 Ireland last address she came from ..Sister Mrs Charlotte Kirkpatrick address hard to make out 173 La?AvWindsor ..Going to Dr L C Conley 99 Tuxedo Avenue Detroit Michigan
Date 24 January 1921
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Re: Charters Family - Antrim
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 December 16 18:24 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Charters Family - Antrim
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 December 16 19:07 GMT (UK) »
I see by her marriage to Floyd Stephens she said she was a widow ? And gives her birth place as Canada ..not seeing anymore immigration records ..Aghadowey done brilliant job of information in Ireland
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Re: Charters Family - Antrim
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 December 16 20:05 GMT (UK) »
Robert Winslow Kirkpatrick died 1917 Ontario-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKWS-3YV

Kathleen Kirkpatrick & children Robert, Janetta, Charlotte, Stewart went to Canada 1912-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-618S-DHL?mode=g&i=13&cc=1823240

Added- William James & Kathleen Kirkpatrick witnesses to marriage of Robert Kirkpatrick & Charlotte Charters-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-TTNW-Z?mode=g&i=1000&cc=1784216
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Re: Charters Family - Antrim
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 December 16 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Wonder what's going on here  :-\

A Robert Winslow Charters (born c1900 Ireland) m.(1922 Ontario) Janette Elizabeth Kirkpatrick- his father James Charters (mother not known) & hers Warner Kirkpatrick!
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-894V-43R1?mode=g&i=173&cc=1784216
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