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Re: Haynes/Haines family Tilehurst
« Reply #9 on: Friday 09 December 16 12:18 GMT (UK) »
1881 Census Henry Haines is born c 1827 East Lockinge, Berkshire

Christening on Anc;
Henry Haines
Gender:   Male
Christening Date: 3 Feb 1828
Christening Place: East Lockinge, Berkshire, England
Father: JAMESames Haines
Mother: LYDIA
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Re: Haynes/Haines family Tilehurst
« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 December 16 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Have you got Sarah and her husband on all censuses after their marriage  to see where she said she was born?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Haynes/Haines family Tilehurst
« Reply #11 on: Friday 09 December 16 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Firstly lets start with Sarah, 1861 she is born c 1862 Ardington, Bekshire.
This is where they are living in the 1871 Census I posted.

This is more likely her in 1881;
In Stoke Newington, London

Charles A. Nutt   39
Martha M. Nutt   36
Wilfred C. Nutt   9
Aubrey H. Nutt   2
Sarah A. Brown   22
Sarah A. Haines, 19, Housemaid, born Ardington, Berkshire
Jane Haines, 15, Housemaid, born Ardington

As you can see she is with her Sister Jane from 1871 Census!


Her Likely Mother Elizabeth in 1841/1851

1841 Census
West Hendred, Berkshire
Robert Bosher, 50
Martha Bosher, 40
Elizabeth Bosher, 12******
Ann Bosher, 11
William Bosher, 9

1851
Robt Bosher, 60
Martha Bosher, 52
Elizabeth Bosher, 22
Ann Bosher, 21
Chas Bosher, 10

West Hendred is Elizabeth Haines pob on Census 1861/1871/1881 although she varies as born 1825-1830 on Census.

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Re: Haynes/Haines family Tilehurst
« Reply #12 on: Friday 09 December 16 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Good question Liz, best to find her married on Census first!
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Re: Haynes/Haines family Tilehurst
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 December 16 12:44 GMT (UK) »
Maria Haynes was a Witness at the 1884 Marriage of Arthur/Sarah in Surrey

Sarah Leach is born
1891, c 1869 Tilehurst
1901 c 1866 Tiilehurst
1911 c 1866 Tilehurst
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Re: Haynes/Haines family Tilehurst
« Reply #14 on: Friday 09 December 16 12:53 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Haynes/Haines family Tilehurst
« Reply #15 on: Friday 09 December 16 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Tilehurst Haines family.

I’ve checked the records and there’s not another Henry Haines/Haynes baptised at Tilehurst in the same time frame of 1832, there is one in 1823 s/o William & Ann then another in 1857 who’s the son of  ‘my’ Henry John Haines .

Henry John Haines
bap. 11 March 1832 at St Michael’s, Tilehurst – s/o Thomas & Jane (nee Hart)
mar. Francis Minall 27 Jul 1856 at St Michael’s
died 02 Apr 1912

Henry and Francis had the following children baptised at St Michael’s:

George Henry bap.31 Mar 1854 – illegitimate but Henry John listed as the father
Henry  bap. 25 Oct 1857
Mary  bap. 26 Feb 1860
Lydia bap.26 Oct 1862 – *
Elizabeth (Lizzie)  bap. 24 Sep 1865
Ellen  bap.26 Jan 1868
Richard  bap. 05 Jun 1870
Jane Lucy  bap. 24 Nov 1872
Sarah  bap 28 May 1875
John William (always known as Bill )  bap. 28 Oct 1877 – Bill always thought Fred below his brother and named him as such in his will.

*Lydia had an illegitimate son Alfred (Fred or Frederick) bap. 25 Apr 1880, brought up by Henry and Francis and she ‘packed off’ to Kensington in London.

I have Thomas’s father and possibly grandfather plus Francis’ immediate ancestry plus ancestors of other spouses.  I also have some of the descendents of Henry John’s children.  My father was three when Henry John died and could just remember him and Aunt Jane who looked after him – Jane Lucy above – plus dad knew that his great grandfather, whose name he didn’t know, was also born in Tilehurst – dad’s Haines family were close knit and he knew a lot about all of them.

The 12 year age gap between the Sarah you mention and ‘my’ Henry’s Sarah seems too big and my Henry’s parents were definitely Thomas and Jane.  I therefore suspect that the Tilehurst Henry is not the one you’re looking for.

There is another Henry Haines born c1832 in Reading who has been confused with the Tilehurst Henry by others in the past.


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Re: Haynes/Haines family Tilehurst
« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 December 16 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all very much for your help.

Artifis, I would very much appreciate  the details on Francis family,

Its not very easy this one.

What I do know is that Sarah Haynes   Servant   F   17   Reading, Berkshire, England in the 1831 census.
Reading and Tilehurst are perhaps considered the same area as she is described as coming from Tilehurst in later 1891 census.
When I have all the posts in I will look at it afresh

Thanks again

John



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Re: Haynes/Haines family Tilehurst
« Reply #17 on: Friday 09 December 16 16:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I dug this out from Family Search, perhaps my original source


Henry Haynes
England Births and Christenings
Name   Henry Haynes
Gender   Male
Christening Date   21 Sep 1823
Christening Place   TILEHURST,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name   William Haynes
Mother's Name   Ann