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Caleb VINES b. 1840 - his 3 wives
« on: Tuesday 13 December 16 11:17 GMT (UK) »
I'm mainly interested in the LANDELLS family, which the VINES family married into. Many of the VINES settled in and around Echuca in Victoria.
There were several Caleb VINES - I would like to know more about the one who married a LANDELLS (daughter of the Rev WB Landells, Geelong).

Any help - much appreciated. Some of my information (below) may be incorrect.

Caleb VINES b. 1840 married Jessie Annie WARNER b. 1872, married  4 Feb 1908 - from my information.
I know very little about Jessie Annie.
Previously, he had married Margaret Jane LANDELLS b. 1846 - married on 25 Dec 1866, in Geelong. She died in Echuca in 1905.
The other wife of Caleb was supposedly Margaret SANDERSON, b. 30 Aug 1832 in Galashiel, Scotland. I'm dubious about whether he married this person at all; if he did, I think it must have been of short duration.
I think all 4 of these people were born in UK / Scotland.

Caleb sired 15 children, most born in Echuca, with middle names Landells. The last-born Wenham Caleb VINES, was b. 1912 in Echuca and his mother was Jessie WARNER.

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Re: Caleb VINES b. 1840 - his 3 wives
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 11:51 GMT (UK) »
VINES, CALEB age  arrived 15 AUG 1855 on the "DONALD MACKAY"
With;
JOSHUA 60
HANNAH 53
JANE 21
MARY A 19
ELLEN 17

So this is the Caleb born c 1840/1

There were 2 Margaret Sandersons arrived 1857/58

Family Name   Given Name   Age   Month   Year   Ship   Book   Page
SANDERSON   MARGARET   18   APR   1857   DAVID MCIVOR   
SANDERSON   MARGARET   20   MAY   1858   ADMIRAL BOXER

1851 in Middlesex we have;
Joshua Vines, 55, House Carpenter
Hannah Vines, 68 (image 48)
Hannah S Vines, 25, Governess
Sam Vines, 18 (Jane on image)
Ellen Vines, 12

Caleb in 1851 is away at School
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Caleb VINES b. 1840 - his 3 wives
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 11:55 GMT (UK) »
VINES-LANDELLS marriage 25th Dec 1866
Caleb Vines to Mary Jane eldest daughter of the Rev W.B. Landells
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/148786002
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/148786014
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5782136

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Re: Caleb VINES b. 1840 - his 3 wives
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Death notices
The Argus 11 Aug 1950 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/22905556
VINES.—On August 2, at 95 Liddiard street, Auburn, Lilly Landells Vines, loved daughter of the late Caleb and Mary Jane Vines, of Echuca. 

The Argus 23 Dec 1950 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/23021008
VINES.—On December 19 at Royal Mel Hospital, William Landells Vines, of Walpeup, dearly loved eldest son of the late Caleb and Mary Jane Vines of Echuca.


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Re: Caleb VINES b. 1840 - his 3 wives
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 12:07 GMT (UK) »
The Argus 23 Apr 1949 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/22724078
VINES.-On April 17, at Albury, Frederick Landells. the beloved son of the late Caleb and Mary Jane
Vines. -Passed peacefully away. (M. L. Vines.)

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Re: Caleb VINES b. 1840 - his 3 wives
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Possible NSW for Jessie born 1871;

WARNER  JESSEE 17940/1871 JAMES/SARAH A, TAMWORTH

Marriage Reg 1852, James WARNER to Sarah A BAKER

You really need the 1908 M/C to confirm
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Caleb VINES b. 1840 - his 3 wives
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 12:11 GMT (UK) »
You might like to contact other people on RC who are part of this family:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=635441.0

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Re: Caleb VINES b. 1840 - his 3 wives
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Trish.
Earlier, I couldn't find anything on shipping, using (free) FindMyPast at home - what you have shown gives me a lot to follow up. (Joshua, his wife Hannah I know about; Joshua and Hannah had a very large family (15 or 16), only a few of the girls accompanied them). 

@cupoflife (I like the moniker) - I have seen the first 3 at Trove, thanks. WB is my 3 x great grandfather, and he was an interesting character.  Info about the additional members (had not seen)  is helpful, thanks.

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Re: Caleb VINES b. 1840 - his 3 wives
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 12:17 GMT (UK) »
The Argus 29 June 1946 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/22254970
VINES. - On June 23, at 30 Bowns road Kogarah, N.S.W., Arthur Landells, dearly loved seventh son of the late Caleb and Mary Jane Vines, of Echuca.

http://www.woronoracemetery.org.au/finding-loved-ones
Arthur L Vines 23/06/1946 Burial Salvation Army Monumental - Section 1 - 0134