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St Ninian's wheelwrights
« on: Thursday 15 December 16 09:46 GMT (UK) »
My ancestor Robert Robertson McALLISTER, born 1840 in St.Ninian's, Stirlingshire, moved to Liverpool some time before 1865 in his capacity as a wheelwright/coachmaker. His brother Andrew made the same switch at the same time. Does anybody have any idea as to why the trade of wheelwright was associated with St.Ninian's (they may also have moved to Dalkeith in between), and why such tradesmen might have left the area in search of work in Liverpool at that time?

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Re: St Ninian's wheelwrights
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 December 16 15:49 GMT (UK) »
Carl, most towns had a wheelwright, horses & carts!  Whether there was a coachbuilder there or in Dalkeith is another matter? A coachbuilder needed wheels, worth trying!

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Re: St Ninian's wheelwrights
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 December 16 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought...

Would a Wheelwright work on Mill & Brewery Machinery too?

Annie

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Re: St Ninian's wheelwrights
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 December 16 16:04 GMT (UK) »
A millwright Annie originally built & repaired mills, still extant but not fixing mills.   A wheelwright basically made & repaired wheels, all the different components being bound by the steel hoop,  very skilled work.  A  large coachbuilders would probably have had its own wheel shop & employed several wheelwrights. Dingwall for example, although a small town, had a large coachbuilding company,  forget the name. Did Dalkeith also?

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Re: St Ninian's wheelwrights
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 December 16 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Not helpful but an interesting piece of related ephemera:

https://www.rubylane.com/item/577260-85-113012BEE/Blacksmith-Wheelwright-Traveler-circa-1800s

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Re: St Ninian's wheelwrights
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 December 16 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Skoosh on Thursday 15 December 16 16:04 GMT (UK)
A Millwright Annie!

Skoosh.

 ;D ;D

Skoosh,

Was trying to think of anything with wheels  ::)

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: St Ninian's wheelwrights
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 December 16 22:21 GMT (UK) »
You would think Edinburgh had better opportunities, maybe a friend or relative lived in Dalkeith?

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Re: St Ninian's wheelwrights
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 December 16 21:52 GMT (UK) »
The remains of a wheelwrights shop are attached to Cousland Smiddy a couple of miles out of Dalkeith, now a trust the smiddy is being restored & still in use,

https://www.visitscotland.com/info/see-do/cousland-smiddy-heritage-hub-p1337161

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Re: St Ninian's wheelwrights
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 December 16 21:53 GMT (UK) »
There was a blacksmiths shop owned by Armstrong's in St Ninians in the 19th century, a possible place of employment for your McAlister ancestor, one of this family Robert Armstrong married an Elizabeth McAlister, St Ninians, in 1820,

http://www.bannockburn.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Armstrongs-compressed.pdf

"Tom Paterson's Genealogy," has a list of McAlister's, some from St Ninians, on his website,

http://tompaterson.co.uk/censussearch.php


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