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Re: Sarah Prout? Married Richard James at Cinderford 11 Aug 1855
« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 December 16 18:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Tom.  I'd recorded an incorrect age for Ann somehow. 

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Re: Sarah Prout? Married Richard James at Cinderford 11 Aug 1855
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 17 December 16 12:16 GMT (UK) »
Hannah PHILLIPS Christened 12 April 1801, Cam, Gloucestershire
Mother ELIZTH Phillips
(Source Familysearch.Org)

1851/1861 Census as you know Hannah Prout is born c 1798/1799 Cam, Glous

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Re: Sarah Prout? Married Richard James at Cinderford 11 Aug 1855
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 17 December 16 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Trish.

The actual register says baseborn child of Elizabeth of Stinchcomb.

I'm working my way back from Sarah's daughter Elizabeth who was known as Bessie.  She married and died in New Zealand.  Her husband was also from the Forest of Dean so may have known her family.  It says she was from Gloucestershire and that her parents were Sarah Prout and Richard James, so I'm confident that I've found her parents.  In terms of accuracy this death printout is excellent. 

Initially I thought James Prout and Hannah Phillips were Sarah's parents but I've had one of those "back up the truck....what makes you so sure?" moments. 

There's no clues from the witnesses at the wedding.  Members of the Drew family were often witnesses at marriages at St Johns, Cinderford.


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Re: Sarah Prout? Married Richard James at Cinderford 11 Aug 1855
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 December 16 07:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone for looking at this.  I'm feeling more reassured that Sarah is the daughter of James Prout and Hannah Phillips by the 1881 census at Lea Bailey.

Name   Age
Richard James   53
Sarah James   51
Richard James   23
Albert James   18
Emma James   14
Kate James   12
Alfred James   9
Edith James   6
Harriett Virgo   48

James and Hannah had a daughter Harriet whose second marriage was to Joseph Virgo. (I haven't found the marriage yet).  She is described as a visitor on the census.

Harriet's third marriage was at All Saints, Viney Hill on 25 Feb 1884 to Richard Embling, and she says her father was James Prout, sawyer.


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Re: Sarah Prout? Married Richard James at Cinderford 11 Aug 1855
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 18 December 16 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD

Berkeley

George FLUCK married Hannah PHILLIPS by banns - 8 October 1815

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Gloucestershire Baptims CD

Berkeley St Mary the Virign

Henry FLUCK - 28 January 1816 - parents: George (labourer) & Hannah
residence: Stinchcombe


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Gloucestershire Burial Index

???

Henry FLUCK - aged 2 - 30 November 1818
Stroud Meeting St,
Stroud St Lawrence


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? can't see a Henry FLUCK christened at Stroud in 1816

There is a christening of

Eliza FLUCK - daughter of William (labourer)  & Phebe - 8 February 1818
again the address is Stroud, Meeting Street

? a brother of George FLUCK




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Re: Sarah Prout? Married Richard James at Cinderford 11 Aug 1855
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 18 December 16 18:31 GMT (UK) »
Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD

Berkeley

George FLUCK married Hannah PHILLIPS by banns - 8 October 1815

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Gloucestershire Baptims CD

Berkeley St Mary the Virign

Henry FLUCK - 28 January 1816 - parents: George (labourer) & Hannah
residence: Stinchcombe


Thank you capetown.   Hannah is only 15!

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Re: Sarah Prout? Married Richard James at Cinderford 11 Aug 1855
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 18 December 16 20:56 GMT (UK) »



Marriage Act 1929  - The age was increased to 16 years

Up until then : Males could marry aged 14 years and Females 12 years


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Marriage_Act_1929

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Re: Sarah Prout? Married Richard James at Cinderford 11 Aug 1855
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 18 December 16 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Was Harriet's first marriage to a Davis?

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MarriageSearch.aspx

Second marriage to Joseph Virgo 1858 at the Register Office Westbury-on-Severn (FoD).

She is shown as Harriet Prout and Harriet Davis.

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Re: Sarah Prout? Married Richard James at Cinderford 11 Aug 1855
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 18 December 16 22:04 GMT (UK) »


Forest of Dean records

Cinderford St John

19 Sept 1852

William DAVIS aged 31, Widower, Stone Mason of Blakeney Hill
father: William DAVIS, quarryman

married

Harriet PROUT, aged 21, Spinster, of Blakeney Hill
father: James PROUT, Sawyer

by banns

He signs, she marks
Mark of Joseph BURGHAM and Elizabeth RUSS