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Re: Great Grandparents John Bourke & Kate Tierney + Bartholomew Daly & Mary Lawlor
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 18 December 16 23:45 GMT (UK) »
You said Lurriga, Clarina isn't in Lurriga parish, (bit odd this happening twice) it's in Kildimo, however they seem to have married in Lurriga (there are no marriages in Kildimo in February that year)
On the 25th
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634929#page/100/mode/1up

Very few marriages in Kildimo, lots of months with none, wonder what was going on.

Any way worth noting she may well be from Clarina.

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Re: Great Grandparents John Bourke & Kate Tierney + Bartholomew Daly & Mary Lawlor
« Reply #28 on: Monday 19 December 16 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Clarina is in the Civil Parish of Kilkeedy, in Griffith's Valuation there is a Michael Teirney in the townland of Briska More in Kilkeedy, possibly her father.

There is also a Michael Burke there, but it's not an uncommon name.

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Re: Great Grandparents John Bourke & Kate Tierney + Bartholomew Daly & Mary Lawlor
« Reply #29 on: Monday 19 December 16 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Children of John B(o)urke and Catherine Tierney of 'Breska':

Mary's birth (1868) and baptism (left page, 7th entry down from top):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03414/2252459.pdf
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634929#page/66/mode/1up

Catherine's birth (1870) and baptism (right page, 9th entry down from top):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03328/2220272.pdf
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634929#page/68/mode/1up (note father's name James, must be a mistake)

Michael's birth (1872) and baptism (left page, 5th entry down from top):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03217/2179407.pdf
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634929#page/72/mode/1up

Ellen's birth (1875) and baptism (left page, 2nd entry down from top):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03085/2131136.pdf
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634929#page/76/mode/1up

Brigid's birth (1878) and baptism (right page, 9th entry up from bottom):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02971/2088481.pdf
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634929#page/79/mode/1up

John's birth (1879) and baptism (right page, 11th entry down from top):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02891/2059321.pdf
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634929#page/82/mode/1up

Elizabeth's birth (1882):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02777/2019405.pdf

Also looks like 'Arthur' born 28 July 1885 was registered as Timothy:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02630/1970441.pdf


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Re: Great Grandparents John Bourke & Kate Tierney + Bartholomew Daly & Mary Lawlor
« Reply #30 on: Monday 19 December 16 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Kate (Tierney) Bourke was given as 54 in the 1901 Ireland census, this could be inaccurate and Tierney isn't rare, so just to note the following as a speculative possibility, from Lurriga RC parish registers, Catherine baptised 20 July 1846, parents Michael Tierney and Mary Hickey (right page, 13th entry down from top):

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634929#page/10/mode/1up

Unfortunately B(o)urkes in the county c.1830 are extremely common and conclusively identifying your John born to Michael may prove difficult, if even possible.



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Re: Great Grandparents John Bourke & Kate Tierney + Bartholomew Daly & Mary Lawlor
« Reply #31 on: Monday 19 December 16 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Gaffy, brilliant again.... my Aunt, recently passed, said to me once that she somehow felt that Timothy was my grandfather's real first name with Arthur being a middle name but wasn't quite sure. Having seen many entries for Arthur re. my Grandfather, I discounted it over the years. It appears she was right....how interesting! Thanks again Gaffy, I'll take a close look at all but they're all correct for sure including birth years which my aunt gave to me. Great .... thanks again!
Re. Kate or Catherine Tierney, definitely a possibility and worth keeping for possible future nvestigation, this genealogy is so frustrating! BTW, Grandad was always known as Arthur, even in the census, so surprising but Timothy is no doubt correct, perhaps his parents just for some reason started to call him Arthur. Is it me or is it a fact that Irish people tended not to have middle names? Ken