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Re: Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 December 16 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that. I have just re read the document and found that what I assumed to be "Baumgartner of Godmanchester" could easily be  "Baumgartner of Gibraltar"
Typo. I meant 1851 at Milton. I have now found Catherine Baumgartner buried Histon 1854 age 25. Also Catherine Taylor born Histon Dec 1828.


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Re: Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner
« Reply #10 on: Monday 26 December 16 04:55 GMT (UK) »
Here is Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner freely available on the Internet.


https://www.geni.com/people/Edward-Baumgartner/6000000007916073697


I do not see any relationship to Cambridgeshire.

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Re: Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner
« Reply #11 on: Monday 26 December 16 08:43 GMT (UK) »
Barry
Thank you for the link.  His mother was Phillippa Knight, daughter of Samuel Knight, of Milton Manor, near Cambridge. The Baumgartners inherited Milton Manor when Samuel Knight died in 1835 and Edward was recorded there in the 1851 census.

Interesting family.

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Re: Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 06:32 GMT (UK) »
Found the 1891 Census of Gibraltar. The census has the widower Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner living with the following children. EJB had two wives Catherine Taylor and then Sarah Woodland. I am assuming that the following children are from the Woodland marriage. 14 Upper Cumberland Road, Gibraltar is the residence of the family in 1891 plus my additional comments.

Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner abt 1816, England
Charles Baumgartner abt 1860, England
Constance M. Baumgartner abt 1866, England
Phillipa Baumgartner abt 1867, England (later Mrs Charles Henry S, Vores  then widowed 2nd. marriiage Mrs Arthur D'Arcy Gordon Bannerman
Emily Baumgartner abt 1877, Gibraltar (later Mrs Edwin Christian Corbyn). She seems to be the last of this generation, she died West Folkstone, Kent, 21 March 1967
Florence Baumgartner abt 1878, Gibraltar. 

Where John S. J. Edward  Baumgartner comes in I do not know. As previously posted he married Inez, now with a marriage date, place, 18 Dec 1902, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.
EJB daughter Charlotte F. Baumgartner married Herbert Fitzgerald, Feb 1885, Holy Trinity, Gibraltar.

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Re: Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 December 16 09:32 GMT (UK) »
"Where John S. J. Edward  Baumgartner comes in I do not know. As previously posted he married Inez"

This Baumgartner changed his surname to Percy during World War One.  Probably born in Gibraltar 9 March 1871.


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Re: Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner
« Reply #14 on: Friday 30 December 16 10:36 GMT (UK) »
London Gazette (on line)

As late as Nov 1916 the London Gazette was referring to "J S J Baumgartner, D.S.O" - this time on temporary promotion to Brigadier General.

The same publication also has an item in September 1915 about an Algernon Percy Baumgartner or Percy Algernon Baumgartner renouncing the Baumgartner surname.

NOTE - just found reference to "John Percy Baumgartner" and the Albanian link - pl ignore above.
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner
« Reply #15 on: Friday 30 December 16 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Here is Allister Percy, formerly Baumgartner. His mother Inez is called "Lady" in the article. Father is  Major General Sir Jocelyn Percy KBE, CB, CMG, DSO. (actually formerly Baumgartmer).




http://www.hambo.org/kingscanterbury/view_man.php?id=285

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Re: Edward Jocelyn Baumgartner
« Reply #16 on: Friday 30 December 16 19:08 GMT (UK) »
http://www.islandhall.com/history.php

This was one of several sites that mentioned the change of name and the Albanian link
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.