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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 10:45 GMT (UK) »
Wiggy, re the birth I found it is on familysearch but also now on Scotland's People. When you look at the church registers on SP click on the other churches button. (Would point out that the birth I found was for a Marion not a Mary).

Might also be worth looking at the marriage for William and Janet. They often don't give the detail we would like but you never know!

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 10:45 GMT (UK) »
I think the Wilson comes from his Grandmother's maiden name, Forfarian.
Possible, but possibly not. You'll need to find the marriages and deaths of Janet b 1876 and James b 1877 to see what they tell you.

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And yes William did find Mary's birth for me    :)
 - I just can't find it for myself . . .  It isn't that I don't trust you all to find things, just that I like to prove to myself that I can find them, specially when I've been told they are there - also to get the record copies if they are available.!   :-[   ;)
It's from the records of the Dunscore Free Kirk, available on SP under 'Other Churches'.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 10:58 GMT (UK) »
I have the marriage for James born 1877 and it doesn't give a father of the groom's name.  Only Mary.  He was married in 1906, in Dumfries in 1906 to Jessie McDonald.

I haven't got to James death certificate/record yet but he died in 1926 in Rutherglen - got this from the family Bible which was very helpful in giving me the bones to start with.   

The 1st December 1848 is the day the banns were proclaimed for William and Janet- I think - it says they put their names forward to be married - same thing as Banns??

This is not my family, but that of my former husband, so I don't have people to ask.  :)  They are all in Scotland - those who are still alive.  I am finding out this info for my children.   ;)   (I do hope that one day they will want to know!   ;D)   Anyhow I find it interesting. 
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 11:07 GMT (UK) »
Re the name Wilson - James Wilson Pearson named his second son James Wilson Pearson (original eh?)  - and the family did say that the Wilson is from his grandmother's side - but they could have been doing a good cover up job!   ;)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Hooray - and thanks - finally found Mary/Marion's birth record!   :)

Can't find James death record though!   Not through SP  nor Ancestry nor FindMyPast.  Must be doing something wrong I think. 

(or maybe I'm too tired.)  I will have another go tomorrow with a clear head.

Thanks so much for your help this evening/morning folks!  :) 
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 11:29 GMT (UK) »
The 1st December 1848 is the day the banns were proclaimed for William and Janet- I think - it says they put their names forward to be married - same thing as Banns??
More or less. They could put their names forward any day, I imagine, but the proclamation or calling of the banns would have to be at Sunday service.
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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 29 December 16 07:37 GMT (UK) »
Think I might have found another child for the couple William and Helen Pearson - Isobel born 1809 - IGIFamily Search.  ??  Possible?

Can't find a marriage for this couple, but think I have mother's birth - i.e. Hellen Hamilton 1777 in Morton by Thornhill Dumfriesshire - to Thomas Hamilton and Isobel Kirkpatrick.

What does anyone think of these records?  Am I on the right track.

Getting off the Mary issue a little, but still -  her family/Grandparents.

Still looking for record of death of James Wilson Pearson in 1926.  Maybe too recent to be in some records maybe?  I wouldn't have thought so though.


AND   I do have a birth for Janet Pearson in 1876 - to Helen Pearson a farm servant - also illegitimate and also William Pearson grandfather at Penpont.
So not Mary's child, but her sister's.    So now I will have to chase her on the Census records too.

The byroads we are led to in this game.    ;)

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 29 December 16 08:53 GMT (UK) »
Your finds look good to me.

Re the death of James Wilson Pearson the only one that comes up in 1926 is in Rutherglen . Ref 654/234. (there are only six results if you search for Pearson with forenames James Wilson on the statutory deaths on Scotland's People). His age is given as 47.

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 29 December 16 11:40 GMT (UK) »
He did die in Rutherglen in 1926, William, so that is probably correct. 

I had his age as 49 but that is because I have his birth as 1877 - so something is a little out - but I think you are correct.

I have been looking for that without success.   

Thanks William - I have it now - it doesn't say father's name - just his death date and all the other things they say.  Definitely him though - worked on the railways.

This is Janet Wilson's birth record - I believe.  I can't read clearly after Fillon - I think Dad was a tiler - but where?  Are you able to see, please - or will I post on the deciphering board?

I think I can see that it took place at 4pm on a fine calm evening!!  :)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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