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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 29 December 16 18:33 GMT (UK) »
I think it is saying that she was born in a place called Douganstyle Dalswinton.

There is a family with James and Catherine Wilson in Dalswinton in the 1841 and 1851 census. James is a joiner. I don't think this can be the correct family, however, as I am pretty sure that this Catherine's maiden name was Marjoribanks.

Still struggling to find a death for Janet Pearson (Wilson) - I am assuming that she died between 1891 and 1901 but cannot see a death for her in Dumfriesshire (or indeed broadening the search  beyond 1901).

William

Ps Might it be worth moving the thread from Lanarkshire to Dumfriesshire?
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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 29 December 16 19:42 GMT (UK) »
I could put in a link to Dumfriesshire!

Here it is!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=761929.new#new

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Still struggling to find a death for Janet Pearson (Wilson) -  I am assuming that she died between 1891 and 1901

I wonder if Ellen might have married and had further children?  Would that change things?  Maybe not as Scottish records tend to show maiden names, don't they.

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I think it is saying that she was born in a place called Douganstyle Dalswinton.

There is a family with James and Catherine Wilson in Dalswinton in the 1841 and 1851 census. James is a joiner. I don't think this can be the correct family, however, as I am pretty sure that this Catherine's maiden name was Marjoribanks.

Seems a coincidence with those names though doesn't it?

Thanks William    :)
 
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PEARSON Mary, 1849-85 - and Family
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 29 December 16 19:47 GMT (UK) »
We've been searching for information in Lanarkshire about this family and it has been suggested there might be more knowledge here as some members seem to have lived in Dumfriesshire. 

Here is a link to the other thread.

Threads merged.

Thank you for anything you may be able to contribute.


Wiggy    :)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #30 on: Friday 30 December 16 09:30 GMT (UK) »
I have had no luck at all today . . .  apart from going through the old Family bible pages and finding some marriage dates were 'adjusted' to allow time for pregnancies of a suitable length!   ;) 

Ah well  -  what's a year between friends - except when one is trying to look thiings up!  (Always allow time on either side - how often have I been told that.)

I can't find James Wilson 's marriage to Catherine Fillon either - I can find a James Wilson to Catherine Bell in about the right time and place . . .but 'Bell' is not what is given on Janet's birth cert. (Mary Pearson's Grandparents these would be.)

I can't find Ellen Pearson's birth record in 1858  - but do have her daughter Janet's birth, as I said.
Can't find any death for her or marriage - Nothing!   ::) ::)

Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: PEARSON Mary, 1849-85 - and Family
« Reply #31 on: Friday 30 December 16 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Wiggy ~

Given that I've found Janet Pearson (MN Wilson)'s death in 1893 but with no real info on her parents, could you list the children of Janet and William in birth order, please?  I'm ploughing through the other thread but info on it  is a bit higgledy-piggledy  ;D

I have Mary and Ellen but not sure of the rest. Also, who married Agnes (d in l on death cert)?
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Re: PEARSON Mary, 1849-85 - and Family
« Reply #32 on: Friday 30 December 16 11:39 GMT (UK) »
This is what I believe to be accurate -

William and Janet were married in 1848 - 1 Dec.

Marion/Mary 22 Sep 1849 - 2 June 1885
James          18 Aug 1853 - 28 Oct 1925
Ann                        1855
Sarah                     1857
Ellen             15 Jul 1858
John                       1859
Thomas                  1864

Thanks very much for looking!
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #33 on: Friday 30 December 16 13:23 GMT (UK) »
I think Ellen Pearson was recorded  as Helen Pearson (see 1871 census where she is showing as Helen born Morton).

Her birth record is probably this one

Helen Pearson Ref 843/34 Morton. 1857.

The Scottish Indexes site has this record (go to Record Sets on their home page and click on Sheriff Court Paternity Index )

Pursuer: Helen Pearson, Burnhead, Penpoint
Defender: Peter Murphy, Surfaceman, Hapland Braefoot, Entekinfoot.
Year of Child's birth: 1876
Year extract issued: 1876

You can apparently obtain the original record for £5. There  is a link to show you what the record is likely to contain.

It might also be worth going back to the record  you have downloaded for the birth of Janet Pearson 1876 to check to see if there is a RCE (Register of Corrected Entries) to go with it.

I cannot see  Helen (Ellen ) Pearson in the 1881 census or see a marriage or death for her, nor can I see anything for Janet Pearson b 1876 beyond the 1881 census. Added to the fact that Janet Pearson the elder's death after 1891 remains elusive they are playing hard to get!

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #34 on: Friday 30 December 16 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi William

See the Dumfriesshire thread - I found Janet Pearson (snr)'s death this am - 1893, wrong age but definitely her. Informant was her daughter in law, Agnes.  I've sent Wiggy the cert  :)

I'm trying to sort out the info in my mind  as I've come to this late and this thread has bits on all of them  and don't want to duplicate :)

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Re: PEARSON Mary born 1849
« Reply #35 on: Friday 30 December 16 13:55 GMT (UK) »
I'm also not 100% convinced of the Janet Wilson baptism. In the  censuses, it says that she
was born Tinwald and Dalswinton is in Kirkmahoe - very close but not sure. Her deat hshows her father, <unknown> Wilson,  as a labourer.  There is no daughter Catherine as far as I can see - not impossible but...

As a longstanding Wilson searcher in D & G, I konw of the traps the surname lies before us.

added - will post on the Dumfries thread with info on the family there.
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