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GEEN Family -merthyr tydfil
« on: Wednesday 28 December 16 08:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone. Wondering if anyone can help.
I have traced my family history back to the GEEN family in merthyr Tydfil.
Especially  Martha Ann GEEN my great x3 grandmother.
I know that her family owned a pub in merthyr..
I'd like to know i if the geen family are still in merthyr?
Or if anyone knows of anyone that could help..cheers neil

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Re: GEEN Family -merthyr tydfil
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 09:00 GMT (UK) »
1901 census:
Bridge Street, Merthyr Tydfil

John Geen            Head    M    46    Innkeeper   Merthyr, Glamorganshire
Elizabeth Geen    Wife    F    46    Troedyrhiw, Glamorganshire
John Geen            Son    M    19    Coal Hewer   Troedyrhiw, Glamorganshire
William Hewit Geen    Son    M    15    Troedyrhiw, Glamorganshire
Samuel Geen    Son    M    10    Troedyrhiw, Glamorganshire
Martha Ann Geen    Daughter    F    10    Troedyrhiw, Glamorganshire
Margaret Ellen Geen    Daughter    F    7    Troedyrhiw, Glamorganshire
Elizabeth Blodwen Geen    Daughter    F    7    Troedyrhiw, Glamorganshire
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Re: GEEN Family -merthyr tydfil
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 09:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much. Do you know if the family name still exsists in merthyr.?
I think! I have trace the geen,s to Germany..

Thanks Neil.
P.s  I noticed there was a lady called Gwyneth70 on these forums that was also related to Martha a Geen, I have sent her a pm. Hope I get a response!

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Re: GEEN Family -merthyr tydfil
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat neil16377

You said;
I think! I have trace the geen,s to Germany..

If I have the right 1861 Census for John Geen his Father was born in Devon

1861 Census
Merthyr-Tydfil, Glamorgan
George Geen, 41, Iron Miner, born Landkey, Devon
Martha Geen, 24
JOHN Geen, 7****
George Geen, 5
Ann Geen, 9mths
Everyone except George is born Merthyr Tydfil

Looks to me that Martha is a second Wife for George so not Johns Mother.


GRO Index for his Birth has Mothers maiden name as SANDERS****;
GEEN, JOHN
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 229

And Ann age 9mths from Census;
GEEN, ANN, Mothers mn GRIFFITHS*****
GRO Reference: 1860  S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 29


John GEEN, 2nd Marriage is on FreeBMD Reg March 1859, George GEEN/Martha GRIFFITHS on same page

1st Marriage FreeBMD 1852, South Molton (Devon), Martha SANDERS on same page

Death Reg of Martha nee SANDERS
GEEN, MARTHA, age 35 ****    
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 200

Trish :)

EDIT Marthas Burial is on FreeREG, Buried 18 Dec 1857
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Re: GEEN Family -merthyr tydfil
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 12:18 GMT (UK) »
hi, i meant that i have traced the geen family to germany in the 1600s...

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Re: GEEN Family -merthyr tydfil
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 12:29 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census George GEEN born c 1820 Landkey, Devon, Occp Drainer, is a unmarried Lodger in Llanblethian, Glamorgan, Wales.


May I ask how you have traced them back to Germany in the 1600's ?

Do you have George Geens Parents and Marriage Certs to confirm his Fathers name/occp?
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Re: GEEN Family -merthyr tydfil
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Van Geen is also a Dutch surname :-\

But you really need to trace back generation by generation ;)
Don't fall into the trap of making assumptions.
Or, even worse, following ridiculous hints from Ancestry! ;D
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Re: GEEN Family -merthyr tydfil
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 May 20 22:49 BST (UK) »
This is my Dads family his mum was Martha A Geen, She married a Jones, my Dad was David Griffiths Jones born 1919

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Re: GEEN Family -merthyr tydfil
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 May 20 23:09 BST (UK) »
Might be worth posting on the Old Merthyr website. There's not much traffic there but some well informed folk, plus lots of memories and photos.
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