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Re: Charles Walter Duprez Ross and wife Ellen (nee Price) 1901
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Here are the two witnesses at the marriage -under the same roof in Whittlesey St

19-01
30 Whittlesey St Lambeth
Harry Miller Head M 38 Brewer's cellarman Ixworth Suffolk
ELIZA MILLER wife M 35 Norton Suffolk
Violet E Miller daughter 10 Lambeth
Herbert F Miller son 7 Lambeth
CHARLES PRICE brother in law single 29 Norton Suffolk
RG13 401 70 23

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Re: Charles Walter Duprez Ross and wife Ellen (nee Price) 1901
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Lovely!
Thanks very much - I'll crack on tomorrow with the 1911 census.

MT ;)
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PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Charles Walter Duprez Ross and wife Ellen (nee Price) 1901
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Just to confirm matters

ROSS, ELLEN  MAY      mmn PRICE
Q4 1897   MILDENHALL  Volume 04A  Page 831

Comparing with the marriage date this suggests Ellen May was already on her way. I suspect the marriage didn't last long

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Re: Charles Walter Duprez Ross and wife Ellen (nee Price) 1901
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 17:51 GMT (UK) »
a bit more info on Ellen

1891 she is in Woodstock House Hendon with Walter Ross!! Walter is the Butler and she is a General Servant

1881
Stanton St Norton Suffolk
James Price Head M 44 labourer
Harriet wife M 44
William son S 22 labourer
Harry son S 20 Groom
Herbert son 18 Groom
ELIZA daughter 15 scholar
James son 12 scholar
CHARLES son 9 scholar
ELLEN daughter 7 scholar
Annie daughter 2
all b Norton
RG11 1847 87 19

and Ellen's parents in 1891
Stanton Rd Norton Suffolk
Jas Price Head M 53 ag lab
Harriet wife M 53
Charles son 19 ag lab
Arthur Smith lodger 18 Miller
William Smith lodger 16
all Prices b Norton Smiths b Debenham
RG12 1454 92 9

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Re: Charles Walter Duprez Ross and wife Ellen (nee Price) 1901
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Ellen May Ross
Baptism    31 Oct 1897, Lambeth St Andrew
Father    Charles Walter Ross, public house manager
Mother    Ellen Ross
Address: 11 Whittlesay St

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Re: Charles Walter Duprez Ross and wife Ellen (nee Price) 1901
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Just to confirm matters

ROSS, ELLEN  MAY      mmn PRICE
Q4 1897   MILDENHALL  Volume 04A  Page 831

Comparing with the marriage date this suggests Ellen May was already on her way. I suspect the marriage didn't last long

Baptism Lambeth St Andrews
31 Oct 1897
Ellen May Ross
parents Charles Walter & Ellen Ross
address 11 Whittlesey St
father's occupation Public House Manager

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Charles Walter Duprez Ross and wife Ellen (nee Price) 1901
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 18:03 GMT (UK) »
1891 she is in Woodstock House Hendon with Walter Ross!!

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Do you know, I THOUGHT that I'd seen her name somewhere earlier, and you're dead right!

Thanks again,
MT ;)
Researching ...
PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Charles Walter Duprez Ross and wife Ellen (nee Price) 1901
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 18:06 GMT (UK) »
Just to confirm matters

ROSS, ELLEN  MAY      mmn PRICE
Q4 1897   MILDENHALL  Volume 04A  Page 831

Comparing with the marriage date this suggests Ellen May was already on her way. I suspect the marriage didn't last long
Should I be looking for a divorce then?
Remember that in both 1901 and 1911 Charles declares that he is single, whilst in 1901 Ellen maintains that she is married.
I've already tried deaths, divorces and probate with no joy (on Ancestry)

MT ;)
Researching ...
PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Charles Walter Duprez Ross and wife Ellen (nee Price) 1901
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 18:13 GMT (UK) »
To be honest, divorce was so expensive and difficult in those days more often than not most people just split up and later on either remarried bigamously or pretended to be married.