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Kathleen Dempsey
« on: Thursday 29 December 16 17:51 GMT (UK) »
I have a Kathleen Dempsey born 1883 in Dartford, Kent, she marries Richard Croucher and going forward I have all the information.  However what I cannot find is anything about her parents, baptism etc.  On the 1901 census she is a servant in a Beer House but I cannot see her on the 1891 census anywhere.  Any thoughts would be welcome.  Thanks.  ::)

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Re: Kathleen Dempsey
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 December 16 18:14 GMT (UK) »

  Her fathers name will be on marriage cert.

Jackie
Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
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Bristol Somerset: Box

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Re: Kathleen Dempsey
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 December 16 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Looking at her marriage certificate she gives her father's name as John Dempsey, Labourer.

Looking for such a person gives this family who may be a strong contender

1891 census 55 Blyth Road, West Ham

John Dempsey   44
Ellen Dempsey   40
John Dempsey   15
William Dempsey   9
Kate Dempsey   7

In this census Kate is down as born Erith, Kent which is ion the Dartford Registration District. However there does not appear to be a birth registration for her

Not sure where you have her in 1901 as I did not find that one
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Kathleen Dempsey
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 December 16 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Oh thank you so much, that makes much more sense now, in 1901 she was working as a servant to a Beer House Keeper in Erith, so all of this fits in nicely.  Thank you again.  ;D

Looking at her marriage certificate she gives her father's name as John Dempsey, Labourer.

Looking for such a person gives this family who may be a strong contender

1891 census 55 Blyth Road, West Ham

John Dempsey   44
Ellen Dempsey   40
John Dempsey   15
William Dempsey   9
Kate Dempsey   7

In this census Kate is down as born Erith, Kent which is ion the Dartford Registration District. However there does not appear to be a birth registration for her

Not sure where you have her in 1901 as I did not find that one


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Re: Kathleen Dempsey
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 December 16 18:23 GMT (UK) »
There is no birth registration between 1881-1885 under Kathleen or in Kent just this one

Births December qtr 1883
DEMPSEY    Kate Elizabeth        Edmonton    3a   249



 
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Re: Kathleen Dempsey
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 December 16 18:25 GMT (UK) »
The 1901 has 2 entries - neither for a Kathleen Dempsey but both for Kate Dempsey

Born 1882 Hornsey Middlesex

Born 1883 Erith Kent
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Re: Kathleen Dempsey
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 December 16 18:32 GMT (UK) »
There are several trees on Ancestry showing her parents as John Dempsey & Mary Ann McCarthy.  Marriage date to Croucher 26.10.1908 - she died 19.1.1942 in Kent aged 58
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Re: Kathleen Dempsey
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 December 16 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Anything is possible, she was a formidable woman, her husband Richard was awarded the Military Medal during WW1, but where she was born in a mystery.  I think her father John may have been born in Ireland.  Thank you again for your help.
There is no birth registration between 1881-1885 under Kathleen or in Kent just this one

Births December qtr 1883
DEMPSEY    Kate Elizabeth        Edmonton    3a   249

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Re: Kathleen Dempsey
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 December 16 18:36 GMT (UK) »
See my reply above your last one
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