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John Hopwood b. 1798-1806
« on: Thursday 29 December 16 19:08 GMT (UK) »
I would be so grateful if anyone has access to John's baptism records so I can verify his parents. I know he was born in Weston Shropshire and married to Anne Davies in 1825 in Madeley Shropshire and that my direct ancestor Rebecca was born in 1837. My difficulty is that although many family trees suggest that John's parents were Joseph Hopwood b.c. 1752 and Mary Broughall, I cannot find proof of this. (The discrepancy in John's birth date is due to varying ages on the censuses). His baptism is often quoted from parish records as 1st March 1798 but I just need proof!
I would be really grateful if anyone has access to his record.
Many thanks
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Re: John Hopwood b. 1798-1806
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 December 16 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi having a look for you, although the only baptism at present I can locate 1st March 1798 Family Search and 4th March 1798 FindMyPast with parents Joseph/Mary was in Prees?
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Re: John Hopwood b. 1798-1806
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 December 16 19:44 GMT (UK) »
The John Hopwood b Prees is in Kirkdale Liverpool in 1851 and shown as born 1802.  Still in Kirkdale in 1861

In 1851 - your John is in Shropshire shown as b Weston 1803. 

However - there is another John Hopwood born Weston 1804 who also has a wife Ann who is living in Staffs in 1851
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Re: John Hopwood b. 1798-1806
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 December 16 19:44 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much Keyboard86,
I saw that but wondered if there was a baptism record anywhere.
Your help is much appreciated.
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Re: John Hopwood b. 1798-1806
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 December 16 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much CaroleW,
will check it out!
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Re: John Hopwood b. 1798-1806
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 December 16 20:42 GMT (UK) »
The main problem is that there isn't simply a place called plain Weston in Shropshire.   There are in fact Cold Weston, Weston Lulling, Weston Rhyn, Weston under Redcastle, Weston Cotton and Weston and Wixhill!!!

The only 'Weston' that I have found that included any Hopwood's was Weston under Redcastle.

Best I can offer I'm afraid.

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Re: John Hopwood b. 1798-1806
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 December 16 23:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Annette,
I appreciate your time.
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Re: John Hopwood b. 1798-1806
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 December 16 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Julie,
I am a bit confused here.

Is this your Rebecca in 1851 in Wolverhampton,  Staffordshire with Parents/Siblings?

John Hopwood, 47, Head, Mar, Furnace Labourer, born Weston, Shropshire
Ann Hopwood, 44, born Prees
Joseph Hopwood, 22, born Lilleshall
John Hopwood, 17, Hodnell
REBECCA Hopwood, 14, born Bilston, Staffordshire  ****
Richard Hopwood,11, born Bilston

BAPTISMS;

REBECKAH  Hopwood, 24 Feb 1837, George St Methodist, Wolverhampton
Parents JOHN/ANN
Abode Ettingshall
Notes;  Born 23 Nov nee LAWLEY***Maternal Grandparents Joseph and Rebekah
FileNumber 9791

Holy Trinity, Sedgley, Staffs
RICHARD Hopwood, 8 March 1840 (birth 24 Jan 1840)
ANN Hopwood, 27 Aug 1843 (birth 8 Dec 1842)
SAMUEL, 1 June 1845 (birth 29 Jan 1845)
Parents JOHN/ANN-e, Father Occp Labourer or Furnaceman
Abode Ettingshall Lane

BURIALS;
St Peters, Wolverhampton
ANN Hopwood 1 Sept 1843, Infant, abode Etiingshall Lane
SAMUEL Hopwood, 7 Sept 1845, Infant, abode Montrose Green

ANN's 1843 Birth Reg on Gro Index has Mothers mn as LAWLEY***

For Ref 1841 we have;
John Hopwood,35
Anne Hopwood, 35
Joseph Hopwood, 13
John Hopwood, 7
Rebecca Hopwood, 4***
Richard Hopwood, 1
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Re: John Hopwood b. 1798-1806
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 December 16 09:50 GMT (UK) »
All on other post was from FreeREG, this from Familysearch.Org;

MARRIAGE;
12 October 1826, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Ann LAWLEY to John HOPWOOD

May I ask where Ann Davies comes from?
(Edit, got it Familysearch.Org)
But wrong Marriage for your John!

Rebeccas Hopswoods Baptism has Ann Lawley's Parents as Joseph/Rebecca

John PARKER and Rebeccas 1853 Marriage has her abode as Monmore Green which fits with her Brother Samuels Burial.
A Thomas OWEN was a Witness at that Marriage.
He married ELIZABETH Hopwood 9 March 1846, Her Father J Hopwood a Furnaceman
So another Child for John/Ann
JOSEPH Hopwood married 1852, Father John a Labourer
(Source FreeREG)

I think the the John Hopwood a Blacksmith was the one who married Ann Davies.

Its so easy to follow the wrong lines with out pircashing Birth Certs of Children born post 1837.
You are lucky the the GRO Index with Mothers maiden names is now up and running.

Also thanks to FreeREG for its wonderful Volunteers we have Ann mn and Parents names.

Trish :)
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