Illegible handwriting on a WW2 document

[JustinL]

The image below is of part of the Bomber Command Loss Card for Lancaster W5008, which was shot down over Nuernberg in the early hours of 28.08.43.

I can make out most of the text, but would be very grateful for some help with a few words.

In relation to Perry (mid-upper gunner) and Crowther (rear gunner), the text appears to say 'reported dead by German authorities, {…} reply received {...} time of a/c being abandoned, believed killed'.

Is it perhaps 'up to time of ...'?

As for the final line, I can make out the word 'not' and little else.

Justin

[Bookbox]

Is it perhaps 'up to time of ...'?

Yes, I think so too.

As for the final line, I can make out the word 'not' and little else.

Could be ... I was not an eye witness (or similar).

[Colin Cruddace]

I think the bottom line reads 'I was not an eye witness'
I can't help with the other bits, sorry.

Colin

Added: Beat me to it, but I'll post anyway.

[Annie65115]

In between "Crowther" and "believed killed", does it say "being abandoned"?

[JustinL]

Thank you for the replies.

Very well done for deciphering the last line.

I can definitely read 'being abandoned', but my next question was going to be whether we agree that 'believed killed' follows.

Apparently a great many of these Loss Cards were written by the one person in this truly awful handwriting.

[Treetotal]

I  can see believed killed too.
  Carol

[Bookbox]

Me too. I think it’s a single comment for Perry and Crowther (bracketed together) ...

 ... reply rec(eive)d up to time of a(ir)c(raft) being abandoned, believed killed

(perhaps No reply ?)

[CockneyRon]

Hi Justin, these little alterations to the document may help

[Treetotal]

I wondered if it said "alive when a/c absconded"?
Carol