Census records

[Chris 71]

I have been looking at a census for 1901 and 1911 of Mill St, Llanelly for my grandfather Evan Llewellyn Evans, (born 1892, mum Elizabeth Evans, born 1868) and notice that none of the house numbers are visable on the census. They actually lived in 2 or 3 houses in Mill St over time (although Evan was born in Powell Place but I can't find that either) so how do you go about finding what number house they were at?

[CaroleW]

Have you viewed the actual 1911 image which will have been completed by your ancestor and shows the address they lived at on the bottom of the form

[Chris 71]

Hi, It gives lots of details, even how many rooms but no house number!!

[heywood]

Do you mean Mill Street, Carmarthen - not Llanelly?

I may have this wrong but 1901 5113/12/16 shows Evan Ll. Evans at 8 Mill Street but mother is shown as Esther Evans.

1911 shows Evan Evans. There is a house number but has mother Elizabeth remarried?

It is difficult because of the surname but these entries seem to fit with the address.

Heywood

[keyboard86]

Hi could this be part of the family shown on1911?

Elizabeth Williams Widow 32
Daniel 12
Hester J 7
David J 2
Samuel; 9 months
Residing at 18, Mill Street, Carmarthen
Census Ref RG13/5113/112/15

Baptism Esther Jane Williams 14th August 1894 St Peter, Carmarthen Father John Mother Elizabeth address Mill Street

David John Williams 21st June 1898 address Steam Mill

Samuel 24th July 1900 Rogers? Cottages, Mill Street

All Father John Mother Elizabeth
Possible marriage John Williams to ( on same page) Elizabeth Evans Sept qtr 1892 Llanelly 11a 1323

EDIT Possible death John Williams 23rd May 1900 St David, Carmarthen aged 32 address 10, Mill Street

PS Hi Chris 71 you were given masses of info way back in 2010 re Powell Place, Rising Sun Inn etc etc, we have just added what was missing from pages of posts on your behalf?

[Chris 71]

I have Evan's birth certificate which shows his mum is Elizabeth but no father added. His father is named as Llewellyn Evans on his marriage certificate. Yes I got some info a few years back but my question this time concerns the census which I have for the first time and am curious to know why no house numbers are on it. He lived at more than one address in Mill St Llanelly. Some of his wife's family also lived in Mill St. Again, one part of them having three different numbers in the same street over the years. Those I found with the numbers. I just want to know which numbers Evan lived at apart from number 11.

[heywood]

If that is him who is described as 'son' to Esther in 1901, the census shows the address as 8 Mill Street.
 If you are looking at the census images, I do not understand why you say there are no numbers.
However, he may have only been there temporarily. Is Esther actually grandmother and mother to Elizabeth?
She may have raised him initially until Esther married Mr Williams.

We aren't allowed to give 1911 information, other than what is in the indexes, but as Carole and I have both written, the number is on the image. You presumably have seen the image because you mention the rooms etc.
It is a puzzle that your images do not have the numbers.
Are we looking at the wrong images - these censuses are not Llanelly but Carmarthen.

[Chris 71]

I was looking at Llanelly because thats where I assumed him lived. I will check Carmarthen. Thankyou.

[heywood]

Ah - I thought you had found him on the censuses - were you looking through them for him? Hopefully, you will see him now with the references we have given.