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Re: Helen Thomson 1854 Jedburgh
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 07 January 17 14:23 GMT (UK) »
Yes as William said get the marriage certificate for Helen Thomson to William Telfer to see who the parent's are ...As far as I can see the Helen/Ellen daughter of Robert and Agnes was not married
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Re: Helen Thomson 1854 Jedburgh
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 07 January 17 14:35 GMT (UK) »
The Helen Thomson I have did die 1937.

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Re: Helen Thomson 1854 Jedburgh
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 07 January 17 14:49 GMT (UK) »
So hard when a common name!!
Thank you for your help everybody.

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Re: Helen Thomson 1854 Jedburgh
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 07 January 17 14:55 GMT (UK) »
The Helen Thomson I have did die 1937.

Did you manage to get a copy of her death to see who her parents were
Rosie

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Re: Helen Thomson 1854 Jedburgh
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 07 January 17 15:01 GMT (UK) »
No not yet. But my mother in law (it's her grandmother) remembers that she died that year.
I will have to look into it.

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Re: Helen Thomson 1854 Jedburgh
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 07 January 17 15:19 GMT (UK) »
Good luck then keep us posted be interesting to see who her parent's were  :)
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Re: Helen Thomson 1854 Jedburgh
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 01 February 17 17:04 GMT (UK) »
So with the help from someone who was very kind I have finally found out that Helen's parents were William Thomson and Janet Bell. So now I need to find out where they resided and dates.
Wish me luck ;D

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Re: Helen Thomson 1854 Jedburgh
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 02 February 17 08:44 GMT (UK) »
According to Familysearch William Thomson and Janet Bell had the following children post 1855. -
Mary 1856 Oxnam Roxburghshire
Janet 1858 ditto
William Burnie 1859 ditto ( looks to have died 1864 per SP)
Charlotte 1861 ditto ( looks to have died 1861 per Scotlandspeople)
Violet Murray 1863 ditto
Ann 1864 ditto ( looks to have died 1865 per SP)
In 1861 the family were living at Shothead,  Oxnam ( down as Thompson on Ancestry)
William age 37 born Jedburgh
Jane age 27 born Southdean, Roxburghshire
Hellen age 6 born Jedburgh
Mary age 4 born Oxnam
William B age 1 born Oxnam
Janet Thomson/ Bell was widowed in 1865 when her husband William died in Oxnam aged 42. In 1868 she remarried in Oxnam. To confuse things her new husband was also a Thomson -John Thomson. Not sure if the two men were related.
In 1871 the family were living in Southdean, Roxburghshire -
John age 40 born Crailing, Roxburghshire
Jane age 38 born Southdean
Mary age 14 born Oxnam
James age 10 ( would appear to be John's son by previous marriage)
Violet age 8 ( mistranscribed as Robt on Ancestry) born Oxnam
John age 2
Adam ( born 6 Nov 1870 to John Thomson and Janet Bell per Familysearch)
In 1861 John was living at High Street, Jedburgh with wife Euphemia and children Annie age 1 and James age 2m. Euphemia Thomson nee Learmond died in Jedburgh in 1865 age 34 ( per SP)
Not sure where Helen was in 1871 but she would have been old enough to be away working by then.
Hope this helps.
Isobel
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Re: Helen Thomson 1854 Jedburgh
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 02 February 17 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Great finds, Isobel.

I wonder if this is their marriage from Familysearch

William Thompson and Janet Bell 25 January 1856 Oxnam, Roxburgh,  SP marriages also have him as Thompson. The cert. would again give their parents' names.

To  complicate matters there is also a William Thomson and Jannet Bell  marriage 22 Feb 1856 Hawick, Roxburgh but geographically the Oxnam marriage seems to make more sense.

If the correct marriage this would,of course, suggest that Helen was born before they  were married.

William

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