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Re: State unknown - Thomas Henry WALTERS
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 January 17 20:58 GMT (UK) »
They were married "after banns", which normally takes three Sundays in a row in the church, but they were also married three days after Fanny arrived in 1899. So it couldn't have been a spur of the moment marriage - they must have known each other beforehand, and perhaps Thomas arranged for banns to be published.

I presumed Mrs H. Wright was Fanny's employer, as no familial relationship is given, and her occupation is said to be 'domestic'.

If you just enter 'F' for first name and 'Hysome' for last at http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/travel-and-migration you'll see the three hits come up - two in 1896 and one in 1899. (pay site if you want to see the full info).
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Re: State unknown - Thomas Henry WALTERS
« Reply #10 on: Monday 09 January 17 00:09 GMT (UK) »
Trove shows death notices for Samuel WALTERS (d 1898) were placed in 4 Sydney newspapers.  These would have been paid ads and they are all the same as the SMH ad posted by smpl.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=samuel+walters&l-decade=189&l-year=1898&l-month=7&l-category=Family+Notices

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: State unknown - Thomas Henry WALTERS
« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 January 17 00:33 GMT (UK) »
Do you have a photo of Thomas? I've sent you a PM.

Jan
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: State unknown - Thomas Henry WALTERS
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 January 17 00:43 GMT (UK) »
Do you have a photo of Thomas? I've sent you a PM.

Jan

Here you go Jan



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Re: State unknown - Thomas Henry WALTERS
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 January 17 00:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks!
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: State unknown - Thomas Henry WALTERS
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 10 January 17 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

I've been in touch with Jang who's been very helpful. We have established that Thomas Henry Walters was born in Sydney around June/July 1867. This is around the period that this Thomas Henry Walters (son of Samuel and Jane Kemp) was born July 1867. We've also compared family photos and there appears be a similarity. However it would be nice to find some more conclusive.

This just in, the newspaper that the family owned was called the Sydney Post.

Any one have any leads?

Cheers,
Brian

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Re: State unknown - Thomas Henry WALTERS
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 10 January 17 06:26 GMT (UK) »
The catalogue of the National Library has only one reference which is:

Prospectus of the Post Newspaper Co
Bib ID   2264347
Format   Book
Description   [Sydney : The Post Newspaper Co., 18-?]
2 leaves ; 23 cm.
Notes   
Caption title.
Cited In   
Ferguson, J.A. Bibliography of Australia, 14280a.
Subjects   The Post Newspaper Co.  |  Newspaper publishing -- Australia -- History.
Other authors/contributors   The Post Newspaper Co

http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2264347?lookfor=post%20newspaper&offset=1&max=1210

Wikipedia has this reference
The Daily Post, published Sydney, for the Sydney region,
status: defunct,
years of publication:   1895

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_New_South_Wales#List_of_newspapers_in_New_South_Wales_.28D.29

NLA holds copies of The Daily Post which was only published from 1 January to 1 April 1895. 
The Daily post [microform]
Bib ID   3036073
Format   Microform, Newspaper
Uniform Title   Daily Post (Sydney, N.S.W.)
Description   Sydney : Gaskell and M'Kenzie for the Daily Post Office, 1895
Life Dates   Vol. 1 (Jan. 9, 1895)-v. 71 (Apr. 1, 1895)

http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/3036073?lookfor=post%20newspaper&offset=17&max=1210

These are the only two I can see in Sydney.

Judith

Edit to add - seems as though directors of the Daily Post were charged with conspiracy to defraud.  Lots of reports on Trove; this one gives a list of those charged but no WALTERS.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/231646450

DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: State unknown - Thomas Henry WALTERS
« Reply #16 on: Monday 03 July 17 12:21 BST (UK) »
Hi all

I have determined that Samuel Walters is not related to Thomas Henry Walters by taking a Y-DNA test. Could it be that there is another Australian birth record out there? On his death certificate his parent's names are missing which I find very odd.

Still no leads on the newspaper.