hurley/ doocey familly

[shels1]

that is what i have so far brigidmac

[brigidmac]

Have army pension records for Sam leech from 1908 so there may be some for the Hurley Doosey brothers too

Do you have any proof of what year they changed their names

When I have time I.ll look at what baptism birth records exist and see what was each child's given surname

Please confirm if facts sinaed and I give are correct .

[Sinann]

I can't look at that tree so I can't make sense of any of those records, I picked one to see if I could find it.
Mary Doocey born 1875
Birth Cert
Born 15 April 1875 Kilbeg
Parents Bart Doosy Mary Hurley
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03099/2136361.pdf
Baptised in Tallow Parish
18 April 1875
First on the page
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632266#page/59/mode/1up

Don't have time to look at any more just now.

June 22 1879 Johanna same parents as Mary
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632266#page/67/mode/1up
And her birth cert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02904/2064143.pdf

[brigidmac]

Quick summary : for Annie
Annie h Harley m Samuel Leech 1906 Dublin

On his army pension record 1908
She is Annie Horley
Sam is 28 proffession painter contractor
Son Bernard and daughter Elizabeth
Plus Kathleen leech and Steven murial leach   that bit is unreadable ..could it be his parents names

1911Annie and Sam leech with children Ben aged 4 ( Bnd)
Kathleen 3 Sam 1
And William Nicol age 50


Hannah Hurley  servant age 21 on 1901 census probably the same lady

Maurice Hurley witnessed Bartholomew Doocey s death in 1894

Annie not with any siblings on any census found so far
13 children registered to parents bartholemew doocey and Mary Hurley

Bartholomew Doosey married Maria Hurley 15 the April 1875 kinsway

Johanna birth in waterford 1879 gives mother's name as Mary Hurley Doocey


Does that help at all ?

[Sinann]

Hold on Bartholomew death 1894, who is he?

I'm totally lost, seem to be talking about two different families.

Need to sort out the Waterford and Lismore births first to see if they are two different families.

[brigidmac]

I still suspect there were two Bartholomew Doocey.s
Or one who married Mary Hurley Doocey and then her cousin Mary Hurley

Someone noted that Michael was informant on his mother s death
And that Mary Hurley died 1900

But there is a  1901 census with Mary doocey aged 70
 Ellie aged 23
Michael 26
 and Patrick doocey 24 in Waterford currabaho

Which doesn't make sense unless death date for Mary was wrong

Sin
the note about Maurice Hurley witnessing bartholemew Doosey in 1891 threw me too
Several trees on ancestry have Barth Doosey 1841-1891
With all those children

Shels what convinces you that it's one family ??

[Sinann]

Bat Doocey Kilcalf died in 1891 the informant was his wife Mary
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06069/4730582.pdf
Mary Doocy died 1900 Kilcalf informant her son Michael
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05768/4630174.pdf
Michael Doocey is living in Kilcalf in 1901 with his siblings but no Johanna.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Tallow/Kilcalf_Mountain/1759051/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Tallow/Kilcalf_Mountain/910863/

First thing to do is see if this is the same family that was having children in Kilbeg, where there was a birth of Doocey children to a Bartholomew and Mary Hurley.

[Sinann]

Bart Doocey and Mary Hurley appear to have married 1869
Registered in Lismore, image not online yet
Vol 9 Page 382 for both.
First child Thomas born August 1869
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632266#page/44/mode/1up
Joanna 4 June 1871 There is a death of a Johanna Doosey 1871 age 0 image not online yet
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632266#page/49/mode/1up
Michael 2 Jan 1873
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632266#page/53/mode/1up
Maria/Mary 18 April 1875
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632266#page/59/mode/1up
Joannes/John 11 March 1877
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632266#page/62/mode/1up
Joanna 22 June 1879
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632266#page/67/mode/1up

That's as far as I can go with the Parish Register for Tallow, note there are no marriages noted against any of the Doocey childrens baptisms.
Moving to the Civil Reg

Maurice 1 July 1881 Kilcalf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02813/2032200.pdf
Eliza 3 July 1883 Kilcalf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02721/2001209.pdf
Margaret 14 April 1885 Kilcalf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02644/1975120.pdf
Bart 5 Nov 1886 Kilbeg
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02579/1953296.pdf
Unknown born 3 pm and Patrick born 3.30pm April 1889 Kilcalf. There are deaths of an unknown and a Patrick aged 0 1889 not online yet
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02471/1917672.pdf
Thomas 1 Dec 1890 Kilcalf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02406/1897379.pdf


Think that is all of them.
It appears by 1901 all the older children have scattered, leaving Michael in charge of the younger ones but by 1911 they to are gone.
Where did they go and did they change their surname?

[brigidmac]

well done siann ..I had found some of those records too but cant copy and paste from ancestry and it was quite laborious writing it all out
I hope i didnt make mistakes

so do you now agree with shels that it is only one family ??