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Re: hurley/ doocey familly
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 24 May 17 15:42 BST (UK) »

Maurice Hurley witnessed Bartholomew Doocey s death in 1894


Bartholomew Doosey married Maria Hurley 15 the April 1875 kinsway

Sources are needed for these records so they can be checked.
I can't find the death in 1894.
Don't know where Kinsway is but the marriage seems too late anyway.

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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 24 May 17 15:51 BST (UK) »
well done siann ..I had found some of those records too but cant copy and paste from ancestry and it was quite laborious writing it all out
I hope i didnt make mistakes

so do you now agree with shels that it is only one family ??

I can't see any evidence yet that it is only one family.
The Kilbeg/Kilcalf family have scattered by 1911, Thomas may be working as a servant near home, and Michael stayed at home but some may be married but if they did they don't seem to have married in their home parish, some or all may have emigrated.

Anna Hurley's marriage image isn't online so can't look at it, it won't have her mother's name but does it say her father is deceased.
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i know her father as she said was Bartholomew  hurley and marie deasy from her marriage cert.

Irish marriage certs don't have mother's names so what is this referring to.

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Re: hurley/ doocey familly
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 24 May 17 22:37 BST (UK) »
i have no proof of name change  but i know that this happen as her grand child is in touch and had the same info
 

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Re: hurley/ doocey familly
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 24 May 17 22:40 BST (UK) »
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Maurice Hurley witnessed Bartholomew Doocey s death in 1894 
this person would be there son from what i know


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Re: hurley/ doocey familly
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 24 May 17 22:47 BST (UK) »
The comment about Maurice came from a tree in ancestry I did not see the source ...sorry
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Re: hurley/ doocey familly
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 24 May 17 23:11 BST (UK) »
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Maurice Hurley witnessed Bartholomew Doocey s death in 1894 
this person would be there son from what i know
Bartholomew is still alive in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Tallow/Kilcalf_Mountain/1759051/

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Re: hurley/ doocey familly
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 24 May 17 23:14 BST (UK) »
i have no proof of name change  but i know that this happen as her grand child is in touch and had the same info
 
I'm not saying it didn't happen but so far in our search there is nothing to say it has happened.

Where did the information about the marriage to Samuel come from?

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Re: hurley/ doocey familly
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 25 May 17 00:18 BST (UK) »
The Batholemew  on the 1901 census is the son of bartholemew senior who is supposed to have died in 1900

Michael's was head of 🏠 with his younger siblings and nephew


Maurice was  another child of BARTHOLEMEW doocey  and Mary Hurley
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Re: hurley/ doocey familly
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 25 May 17 02:18 BST (UK) »
This is an interesting though very confusing thread  ;D

I have done a wee timeline as I was getting lost & the sums are not adding up for me either  :-\

Sinann Reply #25

Bart Doocey (who dies 1891) and Mary Hurley (who dies 1900) appear to have married 1869
Registered in Lismore, image not online yet
Vol 9 Page 382 for both.

First child Thomas born August 1869

Joanna 4 June 1871 There is a death of a Johanna Doosey 1871 age 0 image not online yet

Michael 2 Jan 1873

Meanwhile (in-between)……but above Mary doesn’t die until 1900

Brigid Reply #21
Bartholomew Doosey married Maria Hurley 15 the April 1875 kinsway


But continuing with births with Mary from Sinann Reply #25

Maria/Mary 18 April 1875

Joannes/John 11 March 1877

Joanna 22 June 1879



Then…6 yrs after the 1875 Marriage (in between the above births)……

Maurice 1 July 1881 Kilcalf

Eliza 3 July 1883 Kilcalf

Margaret 14 April 1885 Kilcalf

Bart 5 Nov 1886 Kilbeg

Unknown born 3 pm and Patrick born 3.30pm April 1889 Kilcalf. There are deaths of an unknown and a Patrick aged 0 1889 not online yet

Thomas 1 Dec 1890 Kilcalf


Then……

Maurice Hurley witnessed Bartholomew Doocey s death in 1894 but Brigid has him dying 1900 (from somewhere) & there's another mention he died 1891.

Bartholomew died...
1891
1894
1900

Are the dates all referring to the same man?

Maurice would have been 13 yrs old (would a 13 yr old do this)?


Then Mary (1st wife) dies 1900

My guess is it has to be different families but there's no mention of ages supporting 3 deaths for Bartholomew i.e. that needs investigated & were these deaths all in the same area or spread?

Just thought it was easier to grasp but still not making sense  ::)

My references & comments are not meant in any bad way, simply putting all info. I see in one place along with my thoughts.

Sinann & Bridgid doing a great job plucking here to get to the bones  ;D


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