John Roberts Llandyrnog . a family puzzle.

[wilcoxon]

Presumably John died between Jan 1807 and  July 1808.
 I have no idea how old he was or who his wife was.
From his will.
Roberts, John, Llandyrnog, Denbigh, Tailor .
John Roberts of the parish of Llandyrnog . Will signed 10 January 1807
Administration granted to Jane Davies . 30 June 1808.
Probate granted  12 June 1809
 
Robert Williams of banker and Evan Evans of Pentre`r Felin in Llandyrnog farmers the sum of £40 in  trust for my grandson John Doulben son of Hugh Doulben labourer of Llandyrnog by his wife Mary my daughter.

I have found a John Doulben born c 1805 in census

Give to my son Thomas Roberts joiner supposed to have gone abroad £5.
To my sister Mary the wife of John ------ of Gwrych Berw , Nannerch
Residue .. I give to my NIECE JANE DAVIES WIFE OF DAVID DAVIES of Llandyrnog 

I believe this to be the same David.
In 1841 census  Pont Horn  Llandyrnog  Denbighshire 
David Davies 65 ag lab Y bc 1776
I don`t know when he died



Can anyone help work out who Jane`s parents were, I have tried  but can`t work her out. She could have been from a brother or sister of John Roberts, but I`m stuck with a marriage to David Davies.
I am pretty sure David and Jane are my ancestors.

[Alan22]

The burial record for John Roberts in Llandyrnog is: -
Buried 20 May 1808
John Roberts, taylor
His marriage record is
Llanrhaeadr YC Marriage By Banns 22 Oct 1770
John Roberts of Llandyrnog, Taylor (S)
Mary Roberts of this parish. spinster (x)
Witnesses: John Roberts (S); David Roberts (S)
His wife died in 1780 - see Burial record
Llandyrnog
Buried 02 Jul 1780
Mary Roberts
Their daughter Mary's baptism record is: -
14 Jul 1771 Llandyrnog
Mary daughter of  John Roberts, Taylor by Mary his wife
The only record I can find for her brother's baptism is
Baptism 25 Jul 1774 Llanfair DC
Thomas  son of John Roberts by Mary his wife
Derwen [Township]
Hugh Dolben was born in Ruthin ABT 1770 the son of John and Mary Dolben
His first marriage is: -

03 FEB 1798 Marriage at Nannerch BY BANNS
Hugh Dolben (X) bachelor of this parish
Mary Roberts (X) spinster of this parish
Witnesses; John Roberts (S), Prosser Roberts (X)

Hugh and Mary Dolben had two daughters called Mary who died in childhood.
The baptism record for their only son is
Llandyrnog 16 Jan 1802
John son of Hugh Doulben labourer and Mary his wife

John Doulben joined the army as a young man

Recruitment record
John DOULBEN
Age: 24
Height 5'' 8'
Bounty paid to recruit: £3
Bounty paid to recruiter 16s

Death Certificate
John Doulben
Date: 02 Mar 1841
Place: Military Hospital Stoke Damarel, Devon
Male
Aged 35
Private of the 53rd Regiment of Foot
Cause of death: Cattarrh [weak?]
Regimental Records
 
Death record (no 798)
John DOULBEN
Place of birth: Leandurge (sic)
Trade when enlisted: tailor
Date of enlistment: 28 DEC 1830
Effects and credits: 8s 5d
No will
Father: Hugh of Flint, Holywell

Leandurge is a garbled form of Llandyrnog. We see that John Doulben was a tailor like his grandfather John Roberts
There are detailed records of his service at Kew, London
His mother died in 1806
Burial record  10 May 1806  Llandyrnog
Mary wife of Hugh Dolben, labourer
Note that the will states she has died
"Hugh Doulben of the parish of Llandyrnog aforesaid labourer by his late wife Mary my daughter " - the word late was added afterwards
Other records of interest
Burial   08 Jul 1815   Llandyrnog
Jane wife of David Davies, labourer  of Penisa'r waun aged 41
Burial   12 Feb 1849  Llandyrnog
David Davies of Ponthorn  aged 79
This fits with the 1841 Census as adults' ages were rounded down by five years

[wilcoxon]

I'd forgotten about this post, so thank you very much.