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Re: Daniel Goodwin's wife died 1866 Monaghan giving birth to twins, baby Bertha l
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 14 January 17 10:02 GMT (UK) »
Mmm,
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Sub conditione is used in the case of foundlings or converts where the priest cannot be sure that a baptism hasn't already taken place.
as per article at http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic6707.html.
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Re: Daniel Goodwin's wife died 1866 Monaghan giving birth to twins, baby Bertha l
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 January 17 10:11 GMT (UK) »
A conditional baptism takes place, as you have found, when a baptism may have already occurred.
Bridget was born 5th January, according to the register and baptised 6th January.

If the circumstances are that mother died in childbirth and if there was another twin as rpepper says, then Bridget may have been baptised by someone soon after her birth in the home.
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Re: Daniel Goodwin's wife died 1866 Monaghan giving birth to twins, baby Bertha l
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 14 January 17 11:42 GMT (UK) »
Bessy Goodwin (14 in 1880 census) does look to be Anna's daughter going by the baptism (not sure why poster has her as Bertha as she seems to be Bessie, etc. in census records).

Same register- Francis Goodwin, son of Philip, bapt. 1865
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632801#page/91/mode/1up

Rosa Goodman, daughter of Michael, bapt.1864
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632801#page/87/mode/1up

Maria Goodman, daughter of Eugene, & Catherine, daughter of Patrick Goodman, bapt. 1864
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632801#page/81/mode/1up
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Re: Daniel Goodwin's wife died 1866 Monaghan giving birth to twins, baby Bertha l
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 14 January 17 11:44 GMT (UK) »
Could Bertha be Bridget, daughter of Daniel and Rosa?

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Re: Daniel Goodwin's wife died 1866 Monaghan giving birth to twins, baby Bertha l
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 14 January 17 11:55 GMT (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZDL-6MR

Here is a Bridget Goodwin but she is in the city - quite a distance from Daniel and family.  :-\
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Re: Daniel Goodwin's wife died 1866 Monaghan giving birth to twins, baby Bertha l
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 14 January 17 14:23 GMT (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZDL-6MR

Here is a Bridget Goodwin but she is in the city - quite a distance from Daniel and family.  :-\

But then, given she is a servant, it is still, I would think, quite possible. Also possible is a Bridget Goodwin born c1860, who is in Utica, NY at 1880 - rpepper mentioned that Daniel died in Utica.
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Re: Daniel Goodwin's wife died 1866 Monaghan giving birth to twins, baby Bertha l
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 14 January 17 14:46 GMT (UK) »
This is a more suitable Bridget. She is in Utica - a patient in hospital suffering from 'burns'.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZXF-1VN


Scotmum,
I didn't see that you also had found her  :)
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Re: Daniel Goodwin's wife died 1866 Monaghan giving birth to twins, baby Bertha l
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 14 January 17 14:58 GMT (UK) »
There's a Bridget Goodwin, age 14, in 1875 census with uncle James age 40 and his wife Ann (age 24)- this is supposed to be the page but I don't see them  ???
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VT8V-LVG

James Goodwin & wife in 1880-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZXD-CS9
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