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Charles Bellman & Elizabeth Rippon marriage
« on: Sunday 15 January 17 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Charles Bellman and Elizabeth Rippon married on the 19/5/1828 at Charles the martyr, Plymouth.

I found a birth for a Charles Hutchings Bellman on the 19/5/1807 at Stoke Damerel could this be the same person, in the 1841 census they are living in St Pancras London, with a John and Elizabeth Rippon so this might be Elizabeth's parents, in the 1851 census they are still living in St Pancras and it states that Elizabeth was born in Wigan and Charles in Devonport.

Would anyone know if the Charles born in 1807 is the same who married in 1828,and anything on his background or his parents, could his mother's maiden name have been  Hutchings.

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Re: Charles Bellman & Elizabeth Rippon marriage
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 January 17 15:55 GMT (UK) »
Did you note the witnesses on the marriage

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Re: Charles Bellman & Elizabeth Rippon marriage
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 January 17 16:03 GMT (UK) »

Possibly Charles Bellmans parents:

Charles Bellman married Ann HUTCHINGS  12 March 1798 Stoke Damerel, Devon, England.

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Re: Charles Bellman & Elizabeth Rippon marriage
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 January 17 16:07 GMT (UK) »
The above Charles BELLMAN (husband of Ann) was a plasterer on the marriage entry, and she a spinster of the parish. Witness was a William ROBERTS who was probably a church staff member as he appears on a lot of entries.

As far as children of "Charles and Ann BELLMAN" go, there are the below possibilities:

Elizabeth b. 10 Dec 1800 Plymouth Dock ch. 22 Jun 1801, Devonport (Wesleyan Methodist)
Grace b. 29 Nov 1802 Plymouth Dock ch. 28 Mar 1803, Devonport (Wesleyan Methodist)
Charles Hutchings b. 19 May 1807 ch. 06 Sep 1807 Stoke Damerel
John Hutchings b. 06 May 1811 ch. 03 May 1812 Stoke Damerel
George Hutchings b. or ch. 10 Apr 1814, Stoke Damerel, son of Charles, plasterer, abode Dock
James Hutchings ch. 06 Jun 1816 Stoke Damerel, Charles a plasterer, abode Dock


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Re: Charles Bellman & Elizabeth Rippon marriage
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 January 17 16:10 GMT (UK) »

Well given that the Charles Bellman born 1807 was a  PLASTERER Journeyman on the 1851 it's starting to look very possible  ;D
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Re: Charles Bellman & Elizabeth Rippon marriage
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 January 17 16:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your replies, I don't have the witnesses to the marriage in 1828.

Charles junior's occupation once he arrived in London was a plasterer so I think he is Charles and Ann's son.

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Re: Charles Bellman & Elizabeth Rippon marriage
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 January 17 16:34 GMT (UK) »
You may note that I edited my last message to include possible siblings (nobody else had posted after me when I went to edit it and I dislike posting twice in a row).

There's a possible death for Charles Snr bd. 27 Oct 1837, Stoke Damerel, abode Pond Lane, no occupation details, aged 64. This would mean he has a death cert- GRO 9 233.

Conveniently there is a christening for 26 March 1773, Stoke Damerel, son of Charles and Grace.

I didn't see a death for Ann, however. The death cert of Charles, with any luck, might help confirm matters (provided it is indeed the same man) if your ancestor was the informant. Or, even better, if his dau in law was informant!

Good luck with it :)

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Ann is still alive on the 1851 census, living with dau Elizabeth, now the wife of James PROWSE. It looks like Ann dies in 1857, Stoke Damerel, d. 17th Jul, bd. 22nd Jul 1857, aged 83, abode 52 Cornwall St. This is the address of dau Elizabeth on the 1861 census.

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Re: Charles Bellman & Elizabeth Rippon marriage
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 January 17 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Ayashi for the additional information.

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Re: Charles Bellman & Elizabeth Rippon marriage
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 January 17 16:53 GMT (UK) »
For info.

There’s a public family tree on Anc*y .....lots to look at and verify!

son of Charles & Ann nee Hutchings,
John married Jane Knight, there’s a picture of one of their sons George born 1838 NSW

John's brother named as Charles Hutchings Bellman 1807-1886 married Elizabeth Rippon

John Hutchings Bellman 1811-1870 Gardiner, Malvern, Victoria, Australia (there info. from his headstone etc.)

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
John Bellman
Birth Year   abt 1811
Age   27
Arrival Date   31 Aug 1838
Vessel Name   William Metcalf
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