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Mark Usher Lownds - Sunderland
« on: Monday 16 January 17 21:10 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if someone can help me solve a family mystery. I am trying to locate the father of Mark Usher Lownds, who was born in Sunderland circa 1883. He was born out of wedlock to a Mary Lownds (formerly Roberts). Mary had been married to a John Lownds and after he died, I understand she had Mark with someone with the surname Usher, albeit Lownds may have been put on Marks birth certificate.

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Re: Mark Usher Lownds - Sunderland
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 January 17 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Does he claim any father on his marriage certificate?

Have you found Mark and Mary in 1891?

Any sign of any maintenance order?

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Re: Mark Usher Lownds - Sunderland
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 January 17 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ryan

A bit puzzled here! This is the only death I can find in Sunderland. Is this the right John?

Deaths Dec 1888 
LOWNDS    John    49    Sunderland    10a   294

Mark was born 5 years before this John died.

Births Dec 1883   
LOWNDS    Mark Usher        Sunderland    10a   524   

Or did the couple split up?

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Re: Mark Usher Lownds - Sunderland
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 January 17 22:46 GMT (UK) »
On the 1901 census he appears to be her grandson - have you got his actual birth certificate?

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Re: Mark Usher Lownds - Sunderland
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 January 17 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi, thank you both for coming back to me on this. Well the 1891 census has a Mary Lownes (should be lownds) as a widow, living with her sons, Robert (20) and Mark (7). We presumed that John had passed when Mary had Mark, however perhaps it was an affair! Appears Marks birth certificate is Mark Usber Lownds, which I am guessing is a written error. Mark married Meg in 1906.

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Re: Mark Usher Lownds - Sunderland
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 January 17 22:55 GMT (UK) »
When did John Lownds marry Mary?

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Re: Mark Usher Lownds - Sunderland
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 January 17 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi - no I havent got the birth certificate. John married Mary 1859, her surname was Roberts

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Re: Mark Usher Lownds - Sunderland
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 January 17 23:02 GMT (UK) »
That's interesting Chempat! There is no MMN on the GRO Index for Mark, which should be Roberts if he was Mary's son. Are there any naughty daughters I ask!

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Re: Mark Usher Lownds - Sunderland
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 January 17 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I was looking for daughters.

Have you the family in 1871, Ryan?