Author Topic: 1792 - John ROBERT.... Fool of the wood!  (Read 2661 times)

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Re: 1792 - John ROBERT.... Fool of the wood!
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 21:48 GMT (UK) »
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I think you are all probs correct that it is 'Foot of the wood'!  I just wish I knew which WOOD?! 

I did notice that there were no witnesses to that baptism and I did g**gle Burgher and got a headache.... very interesting though!  Interestingly enough you mentioned that they split again after 1798, well I just received back from Scotlands People another baptism that I had issues with yesterday.  They emailed me the baptism of a daughter Mary ROBERT in 1802 and they are still Burgher's! See attached...  (All the baptism's I have for these children are from SP).

So if this John ROBERTSON and MARY CULLINS marriage in 1784 is mine there seems to be children missing, would this be because they were Burgher's and the children's baptism were just missing in action?!

Also, I've very unfamiliar with 'SON'.... Why would ROBERTSON become ROBERT?!  ROBERT becomes ROBERTS in about the 1840's.

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: 1792 - John ROBERT.... Fool of the wood!
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 01:19 GMT (UK) »
I believe what you seek is "foot of Callander wood" I also checked the 1855 Valuations and there is a listing for a dwelling called "HOUSE AND GARDEN FOOT OF CALLENDAR WOOD" owned by a Mrs. Jane Scott which happens to have been associated with Parkfoot.

Parkfoot lays on the western boundary of the Callander Estate SE of Falkirk. It started out as farm then grew into a village. By the 1865 Valuation it is gone perhaps fire, demolished or absorbed into Parkfoot.

Then I went to the NRS searched "foot of wood" and this entry caught my eye which is an entry for an 1835 murder.

"Victim James Bowers, Parkfoot or Foot of Wood, Falkirk"

So, if its written by the courts it must be true  ;)

http://maps.nls.uk/view/74972550

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Re: 1792 - John ROBERT.... Fool of the wood!
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Don Don Don

That's great work, thanks.... and thanks to everyone.

Even on the 1583 map I can see 'The Parck' on the western end of Callendar Wood.  I will have a hunt around and see what I can find.  I don't expect much but you never know?!

Any idea's where Burgher's maybe buried in/near Falkirk by the mid 1850's?!

Many thanks,

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: 1792 - John ROBERT.... Fool of the wood!
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 02:22 GMT (UK) »
Also, I've very unfamiliar with 'SON'.... Why would ROBERTSON become ROBERT?!  ROBERT becomes ROBERTS in about the 1840's.

As Robertson basically means son of Robert, there may have been others in the area with the same name i.e. he's possibly dropped the 'son' to distinguish himself?

Someone else may give a better/different explanation/opinion?

Glad you have now found the area...slow progress but better than no progress  ;D

Annie

Added, Could it have been to do with his religion?
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Re: 1792 - John ROBERT.... Fool of the wood!
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 02:44 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Annie.

Don, The Scott's are also at Woodend, the other side of Callendar Park!  Also saw mention of another court case from 1826.  Suggests John Inglis also of Foot of the Wood, Falkirk.  Landowners in 1834/1835 was William Kirkpatrick, Foot of the Wood and 1835 William Cubie, Foot of the Wood, as well as William Scott, Park Foot.

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: 1792 - John ROBERT.... Fool of the wood!
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Any idea's where Burgher's maybe buried in/near Falkirk by the mid 1850's?!
Same places as anyone else, most likely.

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Also, I've very unfamiliar with 'SON'.... Why would ROBERTSON become ROBERT?!  ROBERT becomes ROBERTS in about the 1840's.
Maybe it was just how different clerks thought it should be written?

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Could it have been to do with his religion?
Unlikely IMO.
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