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Born at sea
« on: Tuesday 17 January 17 18:08 GMT (UK) »

 Hi,
    In a Census a person states "Born at Sea Belfast Ireland" what can you deduce from this, was there a ship in harbour, or a ship from Belfast or what,
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Re: Born at sea
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 22:59 GMT (UK) »
You can't deduce much really.  The child was born on board ship which may or may not have been in Belfast harbour.  Can you not get the birth certificate, that should give you more info.


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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 16:46 GMT (UK) »
One of my cousins has researched the history of our side of the family, and found that an ancestor was born in ?St. Petersburg, in NW Russia.
We know that he came from a seafaring family in NE England, so seems to have taken the long voyage to the north, around Denmark, to western Russia. Probably coal?
As to the birth,  his wife must have gone with him on the voyage, they were tough in those days.

Otherwise I have a Russian ancestor  ::)
ps I don't know how she found this information, I'll have to ask her, she lives in Canada.
Knott - Northumberland; Yorkshire (?Bridlington.)
Fenwick, Johnston - Northumberland.
Dixon; Hutchinson - York.
Shaw - ? Glasgow


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Re: Born at sea
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 19:58 GMT (UK) »

 Hi lizzieW,
              i understand you have to know the name of the ship,the DOB was 1828 before any records.
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Re: Born at sea
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 20:02 GMT (UK) »

 Hi Bushinn 1746,
          The DOB was before records 1828.
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Re: Born at sea
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 20:06 GMT (UK) »

 hi TriciaK,
            i would like to have found more but it's a brick wall.
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Re: Born at sea
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 January 17 05:16 GMT (UK) »
Not necessarily, 10KEN,

You haven't given enough information to "help the helpers".

Who was the person?
What was the father's name?
What was the father's occupation?

"Born at sea" suggests
a) parents were passengers or
b) father was master of the vessel.

It is highly unlikely that anyone else of the crew would have been able to bring his wife along.

There are many sources for tracing mariners and esp'y masters. You might be able to get the name of the vessel.

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Re: Born at sea
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 January 17 09:09 GMT (UK) »

 Hi lizzieW,
              i understand you have to know the name of the ship,the DOB was 1828 before any records.
               Thanks 10ken.

Hello 10KEN and All

If he was Royal Navy, the name of his ship is really helpful.

The National Archives (TNA), Kew, have only listed those involved in the Battle of Trafalgar, it seems
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/

Royal Navy (ADM) Wills go back to 1786:-
TNA Registers in ADM 142 (downloadable Free, by Surname letter, e.g. ADM 142/1 being letter A)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C515610
Executors, some next of Kin and place given, but long trawl to the end (as same surnames reappear several times)

TNA Navy Wills (if returned by Executors) are in ADM 48
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1757

Other vessels e.g. Brigs etc., which sailed from coastal and inland ports, did sometimes take their wives, but they often sailed many named vessels according to old newspapers.

Regards Mark


Researchers of 'Who Do You Think You Are' for Cheryl Tweedy (or Cheryl Cole, or Fernandez-Versini) managed to find Mariner related items in archives of local Museums, along the North-East Coast. However, she already had a handwritten family tree from a relative.