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Location of Zand River Farm, near Bethlehem, Free State, in 1900?
« on: Wednesday 18 January 17 02:44 GMT (UK) »
My great-uncle Bartholomew Walsh was blown up (by the British) at a place called "Zand River Farm" outside Bethlehem, in December 1900. Is there any way to determine exactly where that is/was? 
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens; CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter; COSGRAVE Castlebridge; CULLEN Lady's Island; CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook; DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack; FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown; HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wexford; McGILL Litter; MORRIS Forth Commons; PIERCE Lady's Island; POTTS Bennettstown; REDMOND Ballygarrett; ROCHEx2 Wexford; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit; SHERIDAN Monadurtlow; SINNOTT Wexford; SMYTH Gerry/Oulart; WALSH Kilrane/Wexford

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Re: Location of Zand River Farm, near Bethlehem, Free State, in 1900?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 January 17 16:27 GMT (UK) »
I found this http://za.geoview.info/sand_river,957776

Thanks for the links. There is a Zand or Sand River in SA, but it is far from Bethlehem. The particular farm where my great-uncle came to grief was specifically stated to be outside Bethlehem.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens; CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter; COSGRAVE Castlebridge; CULLEN Lady's Island; CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook; DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack; FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown; HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wexford; McGILL Litter; MORRIS Forth Commons; PIERCE Lady's Island; POTTS Bennettstown; REDMOND Ballygarrett; ROCHEx2 Wexford; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit; SHERIDAN Monadurtlow; SINNOTT Wexford; SMYTH Gerry/Oulart; WALSH Kilrane/Wexford

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Re: Location of Zand River Farm, near Bethlehem, Free State, in 1900?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 January 17 16:37 GMT (UK) »

Hi

You might find this link of interest then:

http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibitions/boer/battlezandriver_e.shtml

Bethlehem is a town in the Free State about 250km from Bloemfontein

and this one, I think this may be your man

Walsh   B   5871   Private   1st Battalion
Demise: Killed accidentally 30 Dec 1900
Place: Zand River Farm Nr
Source: In Memoriam by S Watt   Royal Irish Regiment
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: Location of Zand River Farm, near Bethlehem, Free State, in 1900?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 January 17 16:42 GMT (UK) »


Walsh   B   5871   Private   1st Battalion
Demise: Killed accidentally 30 Dec 1900
Place: Zand River Farm Nr
Source: In Memoriam by S Watt   Royal Irish Regiment

Yes, that is him. Blown up by a British shell...
I was also aware that there was a battle at the Zand River in 1900, but my understanding is that this "Zand River Farm" is at a distance from the actual Zand River.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens; CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter; COSGRAVE Castlebridge; CULLEN Lady's Island; CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook; DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack; FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown; HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wexford; McGILL Litter; MORRIS Forth Commons; PIERCE Lady's Island; POTTS Bennettstown; REDMOND Ballygarrett; ROCHEx2 Wexford; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit; SHERIDAN Monadurtlow; SINNOTT Wexford; SMYTH Gerry/Oulart; WALSH Kilrane/Wexford

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Re: Location of Zand River Farm, near Bethlehem, Free State, in 1900?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 January 17 17:13 GMT (UK) »
 

There are 4 Zandrivier farms listed on the Boer War database, two of which are in the Free State one in the Bethlehem area the other in  Senekal district which is a town situated on the banks of the Sand River.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senekal.

It is possible that the farm was used as a military base, many were.
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: Location of Zand River Farm, near Bethlehem, Free State, in 1900?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 January 17 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Could it be coincidence?  Zand River battle was in early 1900, your man's death was December 1900 - not necessarily a connection.

Zand River Farm could be just a name - like the name of any other farm in South Africa - "Madrid" or "Sunnyside" or "Stocklands".



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Re: Location of Zand River Farm, near Bethlehem, Free State, in 1900?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 January 17 17:26 GMT (UK) »
Could it be coincidence?  Zand River battle was in early 1900, your man's death was December 1900 - not necessarily a connection.

Zand River Farm could be just a name - like the name of any other farm in South Africa - "Madrid" or "Sunnyside" or "Stocklands".

Yes. To be clear, I think that "Zand River" is just the name of the farm, and that it is not directly connected to or located at the river of the same name.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens; CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter; COSGRAVE Castlebridge; CULLEN Lady's Island; CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook; DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack; FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown; HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wexford; McGILL Litter; MORRIS Forth Commons; PIERCE Lady's Island; POTTS Bennettstown; REDMOND Ballygarrett; ROCHEx2 Wexford; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit; SHERIDAN Monadurtlow; SINNOTT Wexford; SMYTH Gerry/Oulart; WALSH Kilrane/Wexford