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Charles Sigfrid Antonsen..A bit of a mystery.
« on: Wednesday 18 January 17 13:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,Charles Sigfrid was born Copenhagen Denmark around 1882..

He married Ethel May Bush in Weymouth 1904.Their first daughter Phyllis born  1904 with the surname  Antonsen,their next daughter,Winifred Beatrice born 1916 with the Surname Anderson.

There's no sign of him after the 1911 census ...Was Anderson a mis-spelling for Winifred Beatrice?
His wife died as Antonsen!

This all I know of him.
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Re: Charles Sigfrid Antonsen..A bit of a mystery.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Do you have Ethel's death certificate?  Is she described as "wife of" or "widow of"?

Can you find her on 1939 Register?

If any of their children marry how is he shown on the certificate?

Sorry.....all questions but I think Anderson was just a mis-heard Antonsen for Winifred's birth.

Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Charles Sigfrid Antonsen..A bit of a mystery.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 14:20 GMT (UK) »
Have you discounted the 1942 death in Essex?

Charles ANTONSON, born abt 1883.  Sep 1942 Epping, Essex.

He left an Administration (limited) to Alice Monk (wife of Arthur William Monk) and Lilian Bridgen (wife of Arthur Bridgen).

FreeBMD has an Antonsen (female)  birth with mother Bush in 1913 in Southampton....could that be the same family?
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Charles Sigfrid Antonsen..A bit of a mystery.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

If you do a free search on the 1939 register by using the Administration information (found by Nanny Jan) -

Leave everything blank all but for -

Street - Allandale
County - Essex

The first result is Charles Anderson b. 1881, living in Hornchurch U.D., Essex. Anthony W Monk is recorded as living with him and two more people of which one record is closed.

So it would appear that he is referred to as Anderson on the 1939 but death record show Antonson.

JJ



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Re: Charles Sigfrid Antonsen..A bit of a mystery.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 18:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much for you replies....

I think the 1913 birth is their daughter Winifred Beatty..

Ethel May Antonsen looks to have died in Basingstoke,1970 with her birth being 1885...(FreeBMD). I'll try the 1939 with the hints you've given me.I wonder if the closed record is of his wife Ethel?

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Re: Charles Sigfrid Antonsen..A bit of a mystery.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 18:27 GMT (UK) »
The 1913 birth is for a Phyllis Antonsen (mother Bush). I can't see a 1904 birth for a Phyllis.  :-\

Have you found the family together on 1911 census?
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Charles Sigfrid Antonsen..A bit of a mystery.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 19:35 GMT (UK) »
There are six births on GRO for Antonsen with mother's maiden name Bush -

Frank Wilfred Antonsen
q2 1905, Weymouth
Vol 5a Page 288

Died q2 1905, Weymouth
Vol 5a Page 184

Hubert Neils Antonsen

q2 1906, Weymouth
Vol 5a  Page 293

Edward Gordon Antonsen
q3 1907, Weymouth
Vol 5a Page 293

Edna May Antonsen
q2 1909, Weymouth
Vol 5a Page 283

Male Antonsen
q4 1910. Weymouth
Vol 5a Page 163

Died q4 1910, weymouth
Vol 5a Page 184

Phyllis Antonsen
q4 1913, Southampton
Vol 2c Page 13

Do you have the birth cert of Winifred Beatrice Anderson b.1916 to clarify she is the daughter of Charles and Ethel?

JJ

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Re: Charles Sigfrid Antonsen..A bit of a mystery.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi jj,I think there is a birth certificate for Winifred...I hadn't seen a couple of the boys births,just two who'd died after their birth..


I'll pass this on to my friend to see if she knew about all the births.....Thanks so much for looking for me.
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Re: Charles Sigfrid Antonsen..A bit of a mystery.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 23:16 GMT (UK) »
I forgot to say that Winifred married with the Name Anderson?
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