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Help with meaning of Letters
« on: Thursday 19 January 17 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi all Rootschat detectives,
I am hoping someone can help me with the letters in this census regarding where born.
I am pretty sure Y is for yes if born in Scotland, what I can't figure is the letter that looks
like a J?, can anyone tell me what this would mean please.
Probably so very obvious to the experienced..... but me... different story.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Help with meaning of Letters
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 January 17 22:01 GMT (UK) »
The letter you suspect is a "J" is actually an "I" .   

So it is "I" for Ireland (from the printed column heading).

It is a style of writing that was still being taught in New South Wales, Australia even in the 1960s.  I was taught it in the 1950s. 


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The census column is headed “Whether Foreigner or born in England or Ireland”.    So I would expect that if the enumerator needed to use this column he would have entered F or E or I.


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Re: Help with meaning of Letters
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 January 17 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Majm,

Thank you, as I said to the experienced, you make it look so easy, I could only see a J so didn't even
acknowledge Ireland.

Thanks so much
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Re: Help with meaning of Letters
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 January 17 22:19 GMT (UK) »
 :D  I added to my post  ;D    It is simply that it is the style of writing that I was taught.   I am sure that the style of writing you were taught is easy for you to read, and perhaps not as easy for me to read.  Perhaps that's another reason for emails - so that the living generations can easily read each others communications. 

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Re: Help with meaning of Letters
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 January 17 22:25 GMT (UK) »
I am pretty sure Y is for yes if born in Scotland

The Y is more specific than that. It means born in the same Scottish county where the census was taken (see the column heading).

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 January 17 06:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bookbox,

Thank you also for clarifying the Y, I had over looked the fine print in both columns, better
watch that in the future.

Thanks so much for the help.
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Re: Help with meaning of Letters
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 January 17 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Was this an 1841 Scottish census?

It's the only year where it doesn't state where someone was born i.e. 'Y' or 'N' for yes or no to being born in that county.

It's also the only census which doesn't give relationship of others to the Head of household.

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Re: Help with meaning of Letters
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 January 17 07:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Anne,

Yes the 41 census of Scotland.  Thanks for the interest and added information, much
appreciated.
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Re: Help with meaning of Letters
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 January 17 00:55 GMT (UK) »
"Y" for "Born in County", "I" for "Born in Scotland, England or Ireland" as per the printed column headings. One can only assume there weren't many families moving from Wales ...

Hi Anne,

Yes the 41 census of Scotland.  Thanks for the interest and added information, much
appreciated.
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