Thomas Butters= Mary MURRELL =28.3.1814 Hoe

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Hello, can you help with the above, and yes I have been on freereg2 these Butters are driving me potty, the above had all bapt at Hoe , tom 1818, james1814, john 1823, richard1815, seems there were 2 thomas butters, one bapt 1813 son john/sarah, grateful of any more imfo to continue the above reguarding ancesters, very many thanks, I may give up on this line altogether.thanks.

[trish1120]

I am still using the original FreeREG site as it is more user friendly.

Looking for Butters Baptisms 1824+/- 10 years in Hoe , Father Thomas we have;
Richard 1815
Mary Ann 1816, buried 6 Oct 1816
Thomas 1818
Mary Ann 1820
William 1826
Betsey 1829
George 1833


JOHN 1823, a Child of theirs from 1851 Census does not appear on FreeREG but is on Anc;
Baptised 28 Dec 1823, birth 1 Dec 1823

John is not with Thomas/Mary Ann and Children in 1841 Census. Likely working away from Home.

THOMAS Butters age 25 (1818), Son of THOMAS, Bachelor- Occp Labourer, married Ann JEX,
12 May 1843, St Andrews, Hoe

THOMAS Butters age 30 (1814), Son of JOHN, Bachelor- Occp Labourer, married Maria CREED,
7 July 1844 same Church

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Thankyou Trish, for your help, as you can see we are dealing with two different families, I appriciate
your help very much, and in the past, Ithink sooner or later we will give up on this request, as I am prepared to do so, what are your views.Thankyou.Margaret.

[trish1120]

1841 this is the 1813 Thomas;
Sarah Butters, 55
Thomas Butters, 25
Charles Butters, 20
Charlotte Butters, 25
George Butters, 14
Sarah Butters, 12

Thomas's Sister Charlotte was a Witness to his 1844 Marriage

AS you can se hsi Father was not there in 1841
JOHN Butters was Buried 12 Dec 1836 Hoes, Husband of SARAH, age 65
Birth c 1771

Sarah was nee HAZEL and they married 1805

[trish1120]

I'll have to get back to you as I'm off to bed.

You can now find all of John/Sarahs Children from 1805 Marriage.

John/Thomas may be Brothers given they were born c 1771/1792

Trish

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Thankyou so much Trish with your patience, sleep well.Margaret.

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John Butters who marries Sarah Hazle/Hazel    1805  All Hoe.
John born 7 Oct 1808 bap 13th
James born 8 April 1811 bap same day
*Thomas born 21 November 1813 bap 19 December
 *This Thomas married Maria Creed.*
William born 25 April 1816 bap 2 June
Charles born 10 January 1819 bap 7 February
Charlotte born 18 October 1821 bap 11 November
George born 8 August 1824 bap 29 August
Sarah born 24 June 1827 bap 22 July 1827
Joanna born 10 June 1830 bap 4 July 1830

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Thomas Butters who married Mary Murrell 28 March 1814 at Hoe
Richard born 27 November 1814 bap 1 Jan 1815
Mary Ann born 30 September 1816 bap same day, buried 6 October 1816
Thomas born 2 January 1818 bap 25 Jan married Ann Jex/Fox
Mary Ann born 3 June 1820 bap 25 June 1820
John born 1 December 1823 bap 28 December (ancestry only)
William born 23 June 1826 bap 9 July 1826
Betsy born 29 November 1828 bap 11 January 1829
George born 2 July 1833 bap 13 August 1833

The James Butters you list born 28 March 1814 bap 29 March 1814 is the illegitimate son of Mary Butters. NOT a child of Thomas and Mary.

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Thankyou so much with these Butters, thanks to you and Trish,I am getting a clearer picture, thankyou Roots  Team members.Margaret.