Desperately seeking what happened to Harriet Farrand

[TinaRoyal]

Thanks Lee.

[TinaRoyal]

Still desperately seeking what happened to Harriet Farrand.

Harriet, who was born in 1866, got married to John William Roberts on 24th March 1886 in Manchester, after that Harriet seems to “disappear off the face of the earth”.  Harriet cannot be found anywhere on the 1891 U K Census, or indeed on any Census Return after that date.  Did Harriet die before 1891?  Did John die, and Harriet got married again?  Did they emigrate?

Any suggestions from fellow RootChatters, as to what might have happened, would be gratefully received.

[TinaRoyal]

I’d like to thank all for trying to find what happened to Harriet Farrand.  Although not successful this time, I appreciate those fellow RootChatters who spent their time, trying to locate her.  As well as those who contributed to this “post”, I know there must have been many others who searched for her.  I wish to thank them also.

My special thanks goes to Milliepede, Les and Heatherjulie, for their contributions.  Les you expunged the myth that Harriet died in Salford around 1905.  This opens up new avenues of research.

I will leave the post open.  Someone in the dim and distant “future”, whilst searching for somebody else, may well come across Harriet Farrand and think back, “I remember, Tina Royal was looking for her”.

Thank you again for all your efforts.

[BashLad]

What did you have for her as an occupation?

Could she be the harriet roberts who landed in new york in 1893 having sailed from new york?

[TinaRoyal]

What did you have for her as an occupation?

Could she be the harriet roberts who landed in new york in 1893 having sailed from new york?

I can find no occupation listed for Harriet Farrand.  Born in Manchester in 1866, on the 1881 Census, she was still a Scholar.  Her father, James Farrand, had a Poultry stall in Smithy-Door Market, just off Deansgate, maybe she helped him on his stall.   At her marriage to John William Roberts in 1886, no occupation for her is recorded.  John was a Button Maker, so maybe she eventually became involved in tailoring.

I’m intrigued by the Harriet Roberts who landed in New York in 1893, please tell me more what you know about her.  I would love to know, even if all it achieves, is that we eliminate her from the search.

[BashLad]

Not much to go off

Name:   Harriet Roberts
Birth Date:   abt 1865
Age:   28
Port of Departure:   New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date:   10 May 1893
Port of Arrival:   Liverpool, England
Occupation: Servant
Ship Name:   Teutonic
Shipping line:   White Star Dominion Line

[TinaRoyal]

As you say, “Not much to go off”.  Was John Roberts on board with her ?

[avm228]

Not much to go off

Name:   Harriet Roberts
Birth Date:   abt 1865
Age:   28
Port of Departure:   New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date:   10 May 1893
Port of Arrival:   Liverpool, England
Occupation: Servant
Ship Name:   Teutonic
Shipping line:   White Star Dominion Line

This person arriving in Liverpool from New York was a servant, travelling with a 24 yr old Ellen Roberts, same occupation.

[TinaRoyal]

One of the possibilities I had considered, concerning the Harriet Roberts who arrived in the UK in 1893.  Maybe John and Harriet emigrated to the States prior to 1891, (hence they would not be on the 1891 Census).  John dies abroad and Harriet returns “home”.  If Harriet then got married again, she would not be found on the 1901 Census under the name of Roberts.

I have located the Roberts family in Manchester on both the 1871 Census and 1881 Census.  Unfortunately there is no sign of any Ellen Roberts.  I must conclude therefore that the Harriet Roberts who sailed to the UK in 1893, with her travelling companion Ellen Roberts, is not the Harriet Farrand being sought.

Of course, this does not mean John and Harriet did not emigrate, as well as the States, they may well have gone to Canada, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, or anywhere else in the world.