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Re: Samuel Smith c 1808
« Reply #27 on: Monday 13 March 17 17:16 GMT (UK) »
I know it's nice to tie up every loose end John, but I've wasted literally days of time over the years tying up loose ends, so forgive me for not going down that road! And anyway I have an appointment with a barman. Cheers!

David
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            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: Samuel Smith c 1808
« Reply #28 on: Monday 13 March 17 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Have one for me!   Cheers

We've been here before... it's 10 years after....
http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/read/BEDFORD/2007-05/1180011778
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Re: Samuel Smith c 1808
« Reply #29 on: Monday 13 March 17 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks John and David,

Have one on me as well David, but only if you are not driving!

Shall I muddy the waters a bit further,

Keren Happuch Jones was baptised the daughter of Low Jones and Charity at Bletsoe on 19 May 1766.

There is a marriage (some 18 months earlier 19 Nov 1764) at Thurleigh of Low Jones to Charity WYATT!

Are we missing a generation, or so?

A befuddled Tony, scratching head, and still hoping that Samuel Smith will pop out of the woodwork.

Tony

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Re: Samuel Smith c 1808
« Reply #30 on: Monday 13 March 17 19:38 GMT (UK) »
I think I am about to enter a cubic spiral and disappear .. .. ... .... but will I ever come out of the other end.

Unfortunately I don't have access to much in the way of Beds online PR entries so, here is another pebble in the pond.  Low Jones (Farmer) buried 18 January 1772 at Thurleigh.  Followed by a marriage at Keysoe on 22 December 1772 Samuel Wildman to Charity Jones.  Found on Family Search so no information as to her status!  Could she have been Low Jones' widow?

Tony ???


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Re: Samuel Smith c 1808
« Reply #31 on: Monday 13 March 17 22:32 GMT (UK) »
A Charity Wildman was buried in Thurleigh on 19 Aug 1789. No other detail on the NBI

Only diet coke Tony. I don't drink and drive.

I'm pretty sure that no baptisms for this family will be found. It's a  case of making the most from the circumstantial evidence that we have, and it will then come down to the balance of probabilities.

What bemuses me from that 10 year old thread is the reference to the 1920s letter, which seems to mix the two Karenhappuchs. But thanks to the various marriages found by John I think we've come to the right conclusion in this thread.

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Samuel Smith c 1808
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Keysoe marriage 22 Dec 1772... Charity Jones, widow to Samuel Wildman, widower

Thurleigh burial 19 Aug 1789... Charity, wife of Samuel Tyler alias Wildman

Thurleigh burial 11 Dec 1793... Samuel Wildman alias Tyler, farmer
Beds Archives have an Admon for him ref ABP/A 1793/19 .. he's a yeoman

Samuel Wildman, farmer first married Martha Flanders, spinster, with parents consent at Keysoe on 4 June 1754. Martha, wife of Samuel Tyler buried at Keysoe on 16 Jul 1761.

I suspect Charity Wyatt who married Low Jones 1764 & Kerenhappuch Wyatt who married Thomas Boon also 1764 and perhaps Thomas Wyatt, junior, who married Elizabeth ? when? & baptised Karenhappuch Wyatt in 1768 are siblings; but cannot find any baptisms but assume father was also Thomas Wyatt. Both buried 1771 at Thurleigh. One of them leaves a will the other an Admon. Possibly Thomas senior's wife was Mary as a Mary Wyatt, widow is buried 5 Oct 1777 & she also leaves a will.  Maybe these probate records provide a clue.   
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Re: Samuel Smith c 1808
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Samuel Smith born Bedford 23.3.1805..........
......  His parents were John Smith and Kerenhapprich Gale 1767-1839

Judith,  It'd be good to know if you have any evidence to back this up. It is probable that John & Kerenhappuch Smith were his parents, but have you his baptism... & how do you know mother's maiden name was Gale? 
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Re: Samuel Smith c 1805
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 16 March 17 22:15 GMT (UK) »
I am descended from the Smith line and family lore states that Samuel Smith was born in Chequers Bedford 23 3 1805.  His mother was Kerenhapprich Gale.  Samuel married 19.3.1835 Fanny Lovell born 14 9.1813. Podington.  If there was ever any documentary proof it is long gone and the family bible with it. This has been a puzzle for many years so first prize to anyone who solves it!
Judy