llantysilio

[pritchardgeo]

thanks for the reply
I may go to the record office to check baptisms in llantysilio to rule this out.
I have copy of the birth/baptism that indicates chirk. of a George Pritchard
but it could be that as he married in Llangollen aged 16.he may be that he was in chirk/halton when he was married. working as a collier.
it is confusing.but looking through the census records 1841 has hin born in Denbighshire and the 1851 indicates llantysilio.
also there seems to be another George Pritchard born around the same time but died in gresford
all of the Pritchard of my family tree I can link to chirk and rhos etc.
do you think its worth going to the record office to check the baptisms in llantysilio. perhaps they
 have the only records ?,c.f.h do not have them either

[wrjones]

On the narrow point of the 1841 Census,he would be given as born in Denbighshire whether he was born in Chirk or Llantysilio.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[Gadget]

If he was baptised  in 1814, he would have been 18 when he married in 1832 - quite possible.

Have you got any other evidence of age apart from the 1851 census - other censuses or deaths?  Ages given on censuses are vey often inaccurate.

From my research in both parishes (which has been fairly extensive as grandparents were Chirk or Llantysilio lines), I've not come across any Pritchards in Llantysilio and quite a few in Chirk.

Gadget

[dcbnwh]

There are some Prichard baptisms at Llantysilio but no George.

Children of Richard and Anne - Benjamin 1800, Elizabeth 1805 and Thomas 1809.

There was a George, son of Edward and Mary of Burton, near Wrexham - born 2nd October 1808 and bapt on 23rd

David

[Gadget]

I think we need further evidence of George's age. Info from one census record (i.e 1851, as 1841 was probably rounded) isn't enough to confirm a birthdate.

Ill see if my Blackwell non-conformist  records give any info.

[Gadget]

It might be worth checking if the George Pritchard, bapt Chirk in 1814, survived. If there's no sign of a death or evidence of another marriage, census info.

Added -checked my Llantysilio records - Richard was a Blacksmith.

Added 2- just noticed that on the 1841 they are living next to 2 sets of my relatives - Seth Twigg (half brother of ancestor) and James Mates( direct line)   

[Gadget]

Think this might be a possible explanation:

1851
Pentre, Chirk HO107/1993/809/18
George Pritchard, 35, coal miner. b. Llantisilio
..... etc.
John, son, 3, b. Chirk

Burial  21 Feb 1857, Chirk, Elizabeth Pritchard, 44, abode - Gledrid, St Martins


1861
Hengoed, Daywell (close to Gobowen), Oswestry RG9/1880/6/6
George Pritchard, 47, collier, b. Chirk
Mary, wife, 50, b. Oswestry
John, s, 13, b. Chirk
Mary, d, 10, b. St Martins
Thomas, s, 7, b. St Martins

1871
St Martins, Oswestry RG10/2784/91/4
George Pritchard, 58, coal miner, b. Chirk
Mary,wife, 60 b. Llanelly
Thomas, s, 16, coal miner, b. St Martins

1881
St Martins, Oswestry RG11/2660/40/7
George Pritchard, 66, widower, coal miner, b. Chirk


Added  - from memory  this George died in 1887 - buried Weston Rhyn/St Martins but abode is Cefn. Death cert RD is Wrexham.  This might explain the probs from your earlier thread about his birth/death.

[Gadget]

A bit more - I've now had chance to read your previous threads* and see that we had problems finding possible marriage for Thomas Pritchard and Ann. I think this might be a possible:

Oswestry , 12 Sept 1804
Thomas Pritchard and Ann Jones, by Banns .

Will see if I can find more later 

* Added - other threads here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=743061.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=743061.9

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=762441.18

[dcbnwh]

A bit of a long shot - I can't see a second marriage for George to Mary before the 1861 census but there is one in 1869 to Mary Russell in Oswestry, where she gave her birth place in 1861.

Also, there is a Mary Russell of the right age in Oswestry in 1851 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGDG-XXK

If the correct person, it should give George's father. Unfortunately, it isn't online, so would mean purchasing the certificate.

David