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Re: Learning Welsh
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 09 February 17 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Well what else would you do to a shirt but smooth it !!!
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Re: Learning Welsh
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 12 February 17 00:47 GMT (UK) »
I'd better not get a crease in my crys or I might have to smoothio it.  ::) ;D
"Dashing away with your smoothing iron" as the old song said. Stick to 'smwddo' (with a harn [iron] smwddo) Smwddio (with a haearn or hetar smwddio) is Gog Welsh . . . dal ati  :)

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Re: Learning Welsh
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 12 February 17 02:21 GMT (UK) »
I'm afraid I didn't understand most of that lol

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Re: Learning Welsh
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 12 February 17 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Nothing wrong with Gog Welsh !


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Re: Learning Welsh
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 12 February 17 23:42 GMT (UK) »
Just trying to illustrate how 'smoothing' (i.e. ironing) has been borrowed from English into Welsh; remembered later that the South Welsh for ironing is 'stilo', which I imagine came from English 'steel'. 'Gog' is Northerner (Gogleddwr); we call Southerners (half my ancestors) Hwntws (the beyonders); extremists say that they start South of Porthmadog.
                     Hope that you are not completely disaffected by the above and that your learning proceeds as you hope,
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Re: Learning Welsh
« Reply #23 on: Monday 13 February 17 01:14 GMT (UK) »
Diolch, Pinot. I'll stick with what the course says for now, regional differences can be tweaked later!

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Re: Learning Welsh
« Reply #24 on: Monday 20 February 17 22:40 GMT (UK) »
I know this has multiple answers depending on region, so I'm particularly interested in South Wales (Carmarthenshire kind of area) for preference, but how do you pronounce "eisiau"? The course has a robot voice pronouncing things but the pronunciation seems a bit iffy on that one in my mind...

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Re: Learning Welsh
« Reply #25 on: Monday 20 February 17 22:55 GMT (UK) »
If you say the words "Hey shy" and drop the "H" then that's pretty much how you'd say "Eisiau"

(I'm from North Wales)

Although in South Wales they're more likely to say "Hey sha" (again without the "H")

The second "i" in eisiau is silent in South Wales, but not in the North. :)

On this page it gives you two different speakers, the chap says it the North Wales way (proper Welsh!) and the lady says it the South Wales way.

https://forvo.com/word/eisiau/

It makes no difference whichever way you say it.

All the best with your Welsh!

Trystan


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Re: Learning Welsh
« Reply #26 on: Monday 20 February 17 23:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Trystan, that's just what I wanted :) The robot voice is helpful but you don't know when it is wrong!

Dw i eisiau dysgu Cymraeg :D I did find another Rootschatter using the same course but who is far further ahead than I am, so in the future might have a natter partner :D

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