Author Topic: Robert Rees  (Read 4715 times)

Offline splottboy1

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 47
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Robert Rees
« on: Saturday 04 February 17 03:28 GMT (UK) »
My great grandfather Robert Rees was was born in Cobh abt. 1858, and a stonemason, in 1878 he is living at 26 Watkin Street, Swansea and profession is stonemason [on his marriage certificate]. He married Gwenllian Owen of 28 Watkin Street. I know that they had my grandmother Margaret Ann and her sister Emily and possibly other children, but then appear to have moved to Cardiff, and in 1909 he is recorded on the wedding certificate of Margaret Ann. There is a family rumour that they had something to do with a Cinema/Picture Palace in Swansea. I am also looking for information on a relation of his Michael Sullivan [age 38]of Bere Island near Killarney, and he is counted on the census of 1901 in 25 Charles Street Swansea with his wife Mary [32] and four children. By 1911 Michael is counted in the census at my grandfathers house 13, Sandon Place Cardiff as visiting with his wife Mary. I am unsure if Michael lived in Cardiff at this stage, however I did find a Timothy Sullivan who married my grandmothers sister Emily Rees and wondered if they are related.
I read a comment by Peter Spencer that he had been researching his family who came from Cobh, which has spurred me on to ask my questions.
Any information much appreciated.
 

Offline AMBLY

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,986
    • View Profile
Re: Robert Rees
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 February 17 10:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Splottboy1

Welcome to Rootschat!

Is this your Great Grandfather?

1901: 6 Iron Street, Tredegar, Monmouthshire
 RG13 - Piece 4937 / Folio 26 / Pg2
Head: Johanna POWER 50, widow, Living on own means, b Ireland
Dau: Annie CONNELL 29, married, b Dowlais, Glam.
Boarder: Robert REES 44, married, Stone Mason, b Cardiff
Boarder's Wife: Gwen REES 42, b Cardiff
Boarder's Dau: Emily REES 6, b Cardiff
Visitor: Mary Ann FERRIER 19,
Dau: Johanna POWER 17, unm, Colliery Labourer (above ground), b Tregedar

Cheers
AMBLY
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

"Now that we're all here, I'm not sure if we're all there...."

 Entre los individuos, como entre las naciones, el respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz
 Among individuals, as among nations, respect for the rights of others is peace
    ~Benito Juarez (1806-1872)

Offline splottboy1

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 47
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Robert Rees
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 February 17 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ambly,
I cant believe this, and many thanks.
Yes it looks like my Great Grandfather !!!
Only their other daughter Margaret Ann [who married in 1909] is missing, but she would be working somewhere I am sure would have been 14, and she is my Grandmother. I wonder if they were there for work in the Colliery or some other business, as he was a Stone Mason. I was wondering if you got this information from a census or street directory.
I cant thank you enough as this fills in a gap that has been empty for many years.
Colin Peckham
 ;)

Offline AMBLY

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,986
    • View Profile
Re: Robert Rees
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 February 17 13:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Colin,

Oh, I'm glad that was good news for you - wasn't sure if you had any Census on them at all, and then of course his PoB is showing as Cardiff there, not Ireland.

Yes that was from Census, I forgot to put the reference on it - so have amended above.  And a good chance he was working in the Colliery .

From the GRO website (free to register and search)
Emily REES, Birth registered Dec Qtr 1895 Cardiff, mms: OWENS

When & where was Margaret Ann born, to see if I can track them down elsewhere?

Cheers
AMBLY

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

"Now that we're all here, I'm not sure if we're all there...."

 Entre los individuos, como entre las naciones, el respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz
 Among individuals, as among nations, respect for the rights of others is peace
    ~Benito Juarez (1806-1872)


Offline keyboard86

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 17,056
    • View Profile
Re: Robert Rees
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 February 17 20:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat, still looking for Margaret Ann in 1901 census, but this is her in 1891 census:-

Robert Rees 31 occ Mason
Gwenny 31
Thomas W 12
Mary Ann 9
John 5
Margt Ann 3
Robert 0
Edward T 19 Brother
William J 14 Brother
John Williams 56 Father in Law/Widower
George Cummings 15 Nephew
Residing at Hill Street, Swansea
All born Swansea
Census Ref RG12/4481/77/41

John Williams married the Widow of John Owens a Hannah Owens.
Mary Ann is the Mary Ann Ferrier in 1901 census.

EDIT think this is Margaret A in 1901 census with another Power family:-

John Power 50 b Merthyr, Glamorganshire
Mary A 47 b Tredegar, Monmouthshire
Margaret Rees 14 occ Servant b Cardiff
Residing at 15, Iron Street, Tredegar
Census Ref RG13/4937/28/5
Keyboard86
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

UK Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Mabel Bagshawe

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,855
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Robert Rees
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 February 17 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Not sure how this links, but the report of an inquest into the death of Michael Sullivan of 25 Charles St in 1904

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3347204/3347211/119/

Also sadly the death of Patrick Sullivan, aged 3y 3m in1902, following a clothing fire
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3346580/3346585/60/

Offline Mabel Bagshawe

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,855
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Robert Rees
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 February 17 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Young Thomas got into a spot of bother with the police in 1893

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3350836/3350839/17/

Offline Mabel Bagshawe

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,855
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Robert Rees
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 February 17 21:34 GMT (UK) »
I do wonder if Michael and Mary Sullivan in 1911 are different - some details do not fit

Offline Mabel Bagshawe

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,855
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Robert Rees
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 February 17 21:44 GMT (UK) »
I don;t know that the Sullivans moved far from Swansea. The service records of Jeremiah b c1893 are on ancestry. He says b 24 Charles St, was living at 16 Charles St when he joined up in 1911 and was living in Swansea in1923 when he required a duplicate discharge certificate - and I can find and his remaining brothers in Swansea in 1911 with relatives