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Hayfield House in West and Mid Calders I think its in Midlothian
« on: Saturday 04 February 17 22:14 GMT (UK) »
I'm wondering if anyone lives in this area and has heard of this place. It was known as Hayfield before 1804 when it was renamed Harburn. I have found images of Harburn Estate and the new Harburn House built 1804 and a few references to Hayfield House that state it is just North of the New House but no images. I'm wondering if this place Hayfield House is still standing on the Harburn Estate, I have tried contacting Harburn House by email they have not responded and I have also sent an email to portalhistoricenvionment.scot. Beside suggesting Canmore which I can't access; they were not able to help much as I'm in Canada; not Scotland.

Any ideas on where else I might look or any help is greatly appreciated.

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Melodie

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Re: Hayfield House in West and Mid Calders I think its in Midlothian
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 February 17 09:51 GMT (UK) »
I'm wondering if anyone lives in this area and has heard of this place. It was known as Hayfield before 1804 when it was renamed Harburn. I have found images of Harburn Estate and the new Harburn House built 1804 and a few references to Hayfield House that state it is just North of the New House but no images. I'm wondering if this place Hayfield House is still standing on the Harburn Estate, I have tried contacting Harburn House by email they have not responded and I have also sent an email to portalhistoricenvionment.scot. Beside suggesting Canmore which I can't access; they were not able to help much as I'm in Canada; not Scotland.

I have never heard of Hayfield but I have heard of Harburn House. It is in the parish of West Calder which is historically in the County of Midlothian.

See
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NT0460 and
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NT0461

This map http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=55.8313&lon=-3.5269&layers=5&b=1 shows Harburn in the mid-19th century. If you click on the blue dot in the menu panel at left and slide it to the left you can see how it the map relates to the satellite view.

I don't understand why you can't access Canmore. Try this link
https://canmore.org.uk/site/212698/harburn-house and also

http://portal.historicenvironment.scot/designation/GDL00208 which confirms the link between Harburn and Hayfield.

Hayfield is also mentioned in the Statistical Account of Scotland. See http://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/viewer/osa-vol18-Parish_record_for_Calder_West_in_the_county_of_Edinburgh_in_volume_18_of_account_1/

It does seem that nothing remains of Hayfield House.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: Hayfield House in West and Mid Calders I think its in Midlothian
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 February 17 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for you help. Some of the images of Harburn are Beautiful; I now understand why he loved the place as he described it in his Will and Testament. The reason I'm having trouble with access to Canmore is because I live in Canada and can't easily view the images that are in the  collection, because they do have digital copies. I have emailed them and I'm hoping they can help bring some clarity and I'm hoping to buy scanned images if possible.

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Re: Hayfield House in West and Mid Calders I think its in Midlothian
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 February 17 17:47 GMT (UK) »
http://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk has this estate plan. You could contact them & ask if they can print a copy & mail it to you.
Reference   RHP3914
Title   Plan of the estate of Harburn
Dates   1864
Access status   Open
Access conditions   This record has been digitally imaged and will not be produced for readers. The digital images may be seen in the NRS Search Rooms on the 'Virtual Volumes' system.
Location   On site (Sighthill)
Description   'Plan of the Estate of Harburn'. Unattributed.
[1:9500] 1inch = 12 Imperial chains 610 x 927mm. Lithograph. Hand coloured in ink. Linen backing.
Estate plan showing lands from Craigengar to Broomhill coloured to show land use - arable, pasture, woods and heath. Buildings shown including East Broomhill, mansion house, steadings, Camilty Mill, tile work. Sheephouses, shooting lodge and Roman camp noted. Field names and outfields of croft shown. Crosswood Burn, roads, bridges, line of Caledonian Railway and part of Union Canal reservoir at Cobbinshaw shown. Table of contents and detailed description of estate. Part of Mid Calder parish included. Marked 'No. 110/2 of Process.'
Level   File
Extent   1 plan, flat
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Hayfield House in West and Mid Calders I think its in Midlothian
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 February 17 20:54 GMT (UK) »
The reason I'm having trouble with access to Canmore is because I live in Canada and can't easily view the images that are in the  collection, because they do have digital copies.
Were you able to view the link I sent you? The associated photographs are not always all online.
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Re: Hayfield House in West and Mid Calders I think its in Midlothian
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 February 17 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Yes Forfarian thank you. I still can't view most of the images. I have made contact with them; they are trying to help.

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Re: Hayfield House in West and Mid Calders I think its in Midlothian
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 September 17 04:26 BST (UK) »
I was born n bred on Harburn Estate, i now live 3 miles away from Harburn.

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Re: Hayfield House in West and Mid Calders I think its in Midlothian
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 September 17 16:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Jamie thank you for responding. Do you by chance remember any stories about a ship Captain James Pittullo, he lived there from about 1787 to about 1795 when he sold it. Are there any buildings from when he owned it still standing, I'm curious about the old garage I guess it would be from the old photos I have seen.

Any information you have or can remember is greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
Melodie