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Re: Looking for help with my Grandfather.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 05 February 17 13:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ruskie.

I Have had a look through the tree and he did have a brother named George, but no mention of a sister.
Joseph was a Aluminium Spinner in 1935.

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Re: Looking for help with my Grandfather.
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 05 February 17 13:29 GMT (UK) »

Did Joseph have an older brother George and an older sister Rose?

If so they are on the 1911 census in Birmingham with Father William.


I can't find George & Rose Harris on GRO Indexes with mmn STAMFORD  ???

Joseph HARRIS   mmn  STAMFORD    
1910  M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 53   

Do you know when Joseph's parents married?





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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 05 February 17 13:40 GMT (UK) »

I Have had a look through the tree and he did have a brother named George, but no mention of a sister.


When and where was George born?
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Re: Looking for help with my Grandfather.
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 05 February 17 13:50 GMT (UK) »
Ladyhawk, there is a birth in Birmingham in 1912 for a Florence Harris mmn Stanford, so perhaps a search Sta*ford, might find them. Up to the 1911 census there should be 6. Presumably the other three were still births so would not be registered. :(

No earlier births on freebmd as mmn was only included from 1911.


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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 05 February 17 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Ruskie - I found this birth entry and wondered

George HARRIS mmn   STANFIELD    
1907  M Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 362   

for info. can be ruled out this Rose middle name Ellen she was born similar
date as the other Rose

Rose E STANFIELD born c1881 Aston can be found living 6 Montague St Aston Warwickshire in 1891 with her 5 siblings and her widowed father George and his mother in law Anna Wilkins
RG12; Piece: 2436; Folio: 76; Page: 33 & at
21 Sutherland St Aston Manor in 1901 with her father George and 3 siblings 
RG13; Piece: 2888; Folio: 25; Page: 42

marriage entry for his parents

Jun 1903 Aston
William John HARRIS
Female name on same page
Rose Ellen STANFIELD

My Grandfather Joseph Harris was born 8 January 1910.

Joseph was born in the infirmary part of the Birmingham Workhouse in Dudley Road.

His father was William John George Harris and Mother Rose Stamford.


I still cannot find a marriage for a
William John George HARRIS to Rose STAMFORD though  ??? Perhaps they did not marry  :-\



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Re: Looking for help with my Grandfather.
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 05 February 17 14:27 GMT (UK) »
Very similar names aren't they?  :)
The same area too.

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Re: Looking for help with my Grandfather.
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 05 February 17 16:17 GMT (UK) »
My Grandfather Joseph Harris was born 8 January 1910.

He was married to D M Owen, they married on 16 Dec 1935 in Birmingham Registry Office.


I know you are primarily looking for more info. on Joseph - you don't mention if his wife died I have just added the initials for her name just in case......

If this her death doesn't look as if she remarried

D M HARRIS born 9 Oct 1914 age 90
Jul 2005 Sandwell West Midlands
Register Number:   A79 District and Subdistrict:   070/1A Entry Number:   14

If the above is correct  this could be the corresponding birth entry

D M OWEN mmn PRITCHARD
Registration Year:   1914
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Birmingham Warwickshire
Volume:   6d Page:   305

You could use the above dob to look at 1939 register (it's free to search but you need to have
a subscription to view details)

Do you have their 1935 marriage certificate?

What was their address?

What was her age, her father's name and occupation?

ADDED - if you'd rather not add the info. on your thread that's ok


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Re: Looking for help with my Grandfather.
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 05 February 17 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi LadyHawk.

I am sorry I should have said about Doris May Owen his wife (my Grandmother). She died at the age of 90 around 2004.

D M HARRIS born 9 Oct 1914 age 90
Jul 2005 Sandwell West Midlands
Register Number:   A79 District and Subdistrict:   070/1A Entry Number:   14

This would be her I am thinking. Her mother was Elizabeth Pritchard,who was married to Caleb Owen.
I have an online copy of their marriage certificate, but the address is hard to read. It looks like Joseph was at Number 2 something, Alfred Street? Aston and Doris was in  3, Back 117, Prescott Street, Brookfields, Birmingham.

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Re: Looking for help with my Grandfather.
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 05 February 17 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi LadyHawk.

On the information about Rose Stamford. I have found that it is either stamford or stanfield. Her middle name was Ellen. She was born about 1881 and her parents were named as George and Ellen. It gets confusing when the surnames do not match. But It could be either spelling.