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Offline T-Dub

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County Armagh - Newtownhamilton
« on: Monday 06 February 17 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Helloooo,
On the attached marriage record, the "Residence at the Time of Marriage" place names have me baffled. I don't know if these would be village names or street names or ?? Could anyone help out with a guess that would be more fruitful than my own failed attempts?
(I thought about posting this in the "Handwriting" section but then thought someone with knowledge of the area might have an easier time of it.)
Thank you in advance from Vancouver, BC, Canada!

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Re: County Armagh - Newtownhamilton
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 February 17 09:27 GMT (UK) »
These are townland names. The townland is an administrative system, unique to Ireland I think, of dividing the country up into parcels of land. Anything from 5 to 5000 acres. You can find them on various maps eg on Griffiths Valuation.

There were no street names in rural Ireland at that time (there still arenít in some places) and the townland alone was sufficient to identify you or get a letter delivered. The postman and anyone else who mattered knew where in the townland you lived. There wasnít necessarily a town in a townland. Most were  (and still are) rural agricultural land.

Hereís a link to all the townlands in Co Armagh (and the rest of Ireland). I think the first is Tullyvanus in Co Monaghan but unfortunately I canít identify the other. Possibly someone with better local knowledge may be able to assist. Some townlands had more than one name and some have disappeared over the years.

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Re: County Armagh - Newtownhamilton
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 February 17 09:34 GMT (UK) »
Those are townlands- Tullyvallan could be the first one but can't figure out the second one yet. It looks like Scarramore which could be Skerrymore in Muckno civil parish, County Monaghan.

There are 6 Tullyvallans in Newtownhamilton civil parish-
https://www.townlands.ie/search/?q=tullyvallan

Skerrymore her as Sherrymore- https://www.townlands.ie/monaghan/cremorne/muckno/sherrymore/

Added- think Elwyn is correct and the 1st one is Tullyvanus which is also in Muckno Parish-
https://www.townlands.ie/monaghan/cremorne/muckno/tullyvanus/
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Re: County Armagh - Newtownhamilton
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 February 17 09:36 GMT (UK) »
Those are townlands- Tullyvallan could be the first one but can't figure out the second one yet. It looks like Scarramore which could be Skerrymore in Muckno civil parish, County Monaghan.

There are 6 Tullyvallans in Newtownhamilton civil parish-
https://www.townlands.ie/search/?q=tullyvallan


Skerrymore her as Sherrymore- https://www.townlands.ie/monaghan/cremorne/muckno/sherrymore/

Added- think Elwyn is correct and the 1st one is Tullyvanus which is also in Muckno Parish-
https://www.townlands.ie/monaghan/cremorne/muckno/tullyvanus/

Tullyvanus and Skerrymore march each other so the bride and groom weren't living too far apart.
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Re: County Armagh - Newtownhamilton
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 February 17 13:50 GMT (UK) »
Everyone,
This is marvellous information and incredibly helpful - thank you all so much!
~T