William John Williams

[seaweed]

You would need to visit The National Archive at Kew.
If anywhere it should be here.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10990190
These records are stored alphabetically  in blocks of 60 names. Be sure to quote his Discharge number, 900223, this number is unique to him and will help distinguish him from the dozens of seamen named William Williams.

[MaureeninNY]

Just for interest:


LIVERPOOL DIVORCE PETITIONS SEVENTY-NINE CASES FOR HEARING A list of seventy-seven petitions for divorce, and of two for decrees of
 William John Williams, aged 68. chief steward of the Hall Line steamer City of Durham, and residing at the Sailors’ Home. Liverpool, against Alice Elizabeth Williams, formerly of Park Hill Road. Prenton, and Taj Mai, The Dell, Rock Ferry.
February 14, 1939 - Liverpool Daily Post - Liverpool, Merseyside, England

Maureen

[Chris1286]

Once again Thanks for the help. Its a Fascinating storey. His daughter was born when he was over 70. Her mother was 32 years old. She courted William John Williams for 5 years before they married, not knowing he was still married to Alice Hunter. She has a photo album with all the places in the World he visited whilst in The Merchant Navy, her mother is in some of the pictures, so he took her to Sea. All the photo's of William have been torn out, so I wonder if Alice found it and destroyed them?
William had quite a large family with Alice Hunter, so there might be still some survivers. Once again thanks.
Chris Reeves

[HMac]

Below is a transcription of his CR 2 MN record pre 1941.
Please note there will be mistakes and omissions in most of those cards as some voyages were not recorded.

Clearly he was an Ellerman City Line seaman.

CITY OF SYDNEY -  7-6-1923
MALATIAN – 21-1-1925
CITY OF OSAKA – 7-3-1926
CITY OF YOKOHAMA – 3-1-1928
CITY OF EXETER – 5-2-1929
CITY OF EVANSVILLE – 25-2-1929
CITY OF KOBE – 5-12-1932
CITY OF LYONS – 15-6-1933
CITY OF BEDFORD – 24-3-1934
CITY OF BEDFORD - 28-11-1934
CITY OF LILLE – 3-12-1935
CITY OF MELBOURNE – 13-4-1937
SERBINO – 10-10-1939
CITY OF SHANGHAI – no date of engagement.

Regards
Hugh

[peacekeeper]

Hello Chris, Your posting is fascinating to me because although I knew nothing of William till reading this I have a family tree going back to the late 1700's for his second wife Jessie Ann Richie on her Mum's side. Her mother was Margaret Cowie born Portgordon 26 April 1877 and her mother was the younger sister of my Gt Grandmother Annie Cowie. Their parents were Alexander Cowie ' dodel' born Portgordon and Jane Morrison born Nether Dallachy. Jessie Ann had an older sister Jane Morrison Ritchie and two older brothers Frank and Alexander. I could never find a marriage or death record for Jessie Ann as I was looking on Scotlands People but did not think of her being married in England. Your question has helped me find information on Jessie Ann. I can pm you more information on Jessie Ann's ancestors if you need it. Best regards Ann

[Chris1286]

Sorry for not getting back. To hot in the sun lounge to do tree's during the Summer.
The lady I amd looking at her family for is the daughter of Jessie Ann Richie. Any information on that side of the family I would be glad to have. She married William John William in 1939 after he divorced his first wife. He was 67 years old and she was 29. She had been travelling with him on the vessels he served for about 5 years. I believe she never new he was still married?
Chris Reeves

[Chris1286]

To Peacekeeper. Can you let me have a copy of the Ritchie family tree. My email is ^(*)
Thanks Chris



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[peternoyce]

In my collection I have the WW1 medals- Mercantile Marine and BWM medal for “William Williams”. I wonder if it was the same person?

[Chris1286]

Hi sorry for not replying sooner, been abroad. His daughter suggest that he did recieve medals in the 1st World War but she never saw them. What is your story about them and who is your William Williams.
Chris Reeves