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Re: Daniel Watson Richardson and Eleanor Reed of Longbenton
« Reply #54 on: Monday 08 January 18 06:43 GMT (UK) »
The marriage at Warkworth is on Familysearch Durham Bishops Transcripts. Gives the brides abode as Brainshaugh.

There is a baptism at Warkworth on Familysearch, 1 July 1792, Margaret Trollop, daughter of Thomas Trollop.

Trollop and Trobe seem to be interchangeable. Some Family Trees on Ancestry have Thomas Trobe/Trollop as a Miller at Guyzance Mill, near to Brainshaugh, with several children baptized at Warkworth.

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Re: Daniel Watson Richardson and Eleanor Reed of Longbenton
« Reply #55 on: Monday 08 January 18 13:44 GMT (UK) »
The marriage at Warkworth is on Familysearch Durham Bishops Transcripts. Gives the brides abode as Brainshaugh.

There is a baptism at Warkworth on Familysearch, 1 July 1792, Margaret Trollop, daughter of Thomas Trollop.

Trollop and Trobe seem to be interchangeable. Some Family Trees on Ancestry have Thomas Trobe/Trollop as a Miller at Guyzance Mill, near to Brainshaugh, with several children baptized at Warkworth.

Alan.
Thank you Alan, I’ve located this now and it seems to fit, and has given me a good lead to more to work on.
 I’ve been trying to find the missing 1841 census with William Reed, Margaret and 10 year old daughter Ellen / Eleanor but to no avail.
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Re: Daniel Watson Richardson and Eleanor Reed of Longbenton
« Reply #56 on: Monday 08 January 18 18:03 GMT (UK) »
I think this is probably them, name mistranscribed as Reen on Ancestry.

1841, Mare Close, Earsdon.
William Reed, 50, Ag Lab, Y
Margaret ", 45, Y,
John ", 20, Ag Lab, Y,
Margaret ", 14, Y,
Eleanor ", 10, Y,
HO107/820/20/4/1

Childrens names and ages match some of the Meldon baptisms.

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Re: Daniel Watson Richardson and Eleanor Reed of Longbenton
« Reply #57 on: Monday 08 January 18 18:55 GMT (UK) »
I think this is probably them, name mistranscribed as Reen on Ancestry.

1841, Mare Close, Earsdon.
William Reed, 50, Ag Lab, Y
Margaret ", 45, Y,
John ", 20, Ag Lab, Y,
Margaret ", 14, Y,
Eleanor ", 10, Y,
HO107/820/20/4/1

Childrens names and ages match some of the Meldon baptisms.

Alan.
Definitely looks like them, they seemed to have moved around a bit! Thank you yet again.
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Re: Daniel Watson Richardson and Eleanor Reed of Longbenton
« Reply #58 on: Saturday 20 January 18 11:51 GMT (UK) »
I think this is probably them, name mistranscribed as Reen on Ancestry.

1841, Mare Close, Earsdon.
William Reed, 50, Ag Lab, Y
Margaret ", 45, Y,
John ", 20, Ag Lab, Y,
Margaret ", 14, Y,
Eleanor ", 10, Y,
HO107/820/20/4/1

Childrens names and ages match some of the Meldon baptisms.

Alan.
Definitely looks like them, they seemed to have moved around a bit! Thank you yet again.

Dear Alan, Christine, Jen (or anyone else who can help please)

I'm looking over this again. I'm very confident in the William Reed - Margaret Trobe/Trollop marriage and their childrens baptisms in Meldon plus the 1841, 1851 census for this family and 1861 for the widowed Margaret Reed nee Trobe.

I'm much less confident in the link from my Ellen/Eleanor Reed who married Daniel Watson Richardson and the Ellen/Eleanor Reed born to William Reed and Margaret Trobe/Trollop in Meldon in 1831. The reason for this is the mainly the greatly varying birth years, birth places and the fact the names are very common (Ellen/Eleanor Reed and her known parents William Reed and Margaret). There is also the likely but not certain error with the mothers name to Meldons Ellen being Susannah instead of Margaret.
Is there a good way to firm up this link from what I know about my Ellen/Eleanor who married Daniel Watson Richardson, and the assumed link to Ellen/Eleanor daughter in Meldon.
The assumed records for 1841 and 1851 and certain records for 1861 and 1871 are as follows

1841 living in Seghill
William Reed b1791 Northumberland, Ag. Lab
Margaret Reed b1796 Northumberland
John Reed b1821 Northumberland, Ag. Lab
Margaret Reed b1827 Northumberland
Eleanor Reed b1830 Northumberland

1851 living in Fawdenhouse, Longhirst
William Reid b1791 Meldon, Ag. Lab
Margaret Reid b1793 Warkworth
Eleanor Reid b1832 Eslington

1861 living in Bedlington Lane Farm, Bedlington, Morpeth
Watson Richardson b1839 Killingworth, Ag. Lab
Ellen Richardson b1834 Callerton
Elizabeth Richardson b1859 Longhirst                    (this is useful, I hadn't spotted before, eldest       daughter born in Longhirst where 1851 Eleanor was living with parents)
Jane A Richardson b1861 Bedlington

1871 living in Cross Row, Bigges Main
Daniel W Richardson b1838 Longbenton, Ag. Lab
Eleanor Richardson b1832 Meldon
Elizabeth Richardson b1859 Longhirst
Jane A Richardson b1861 Bedlington
Margaret Richardson b1862 Bedlington
Susannah Ricachardson b1867 Wallsend
Ann Richardson b1868 Longbenton
Eleanor Richardson b 1870 Longbenton

To add to this, we then have the Meldon baptisms as follows

21 June 1818   Elizabeth daughter of William and Margaret Reed, labourer of Lane House
25 March 1821   John son of William and Margaret Reed, hind of Meldon Lane House
12 May 1823   Joseph son of William and Margaret Reed, hind of Lane House
28 Aug. 1825   Susannah daughter of William and Margaret Reed, labourer of Meldon
22 June 1828   Margaret daughter of William and Margaret Reed, labourer of Meldon
1 May 1831   Ellen daughter of William and Susannah Reed, labourer of Meldon

I want to be as certain as I can about this link as Margaret Trobe/Trollop leads to an interesting and fairly well researched line from Guyzance Mill and it will take me back another 4 generations on her line.

kind regards
Christian

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Re: Daniel Watson Richardson and Eleanor Reed of Longbenton
« Reply #59 on: Sunday 21 January 18 07:49 GMT (UK) »
Just a quick clarification - place of birth for her in 1851 is actually Eshington not Eslington.  Eshington was a frequently used form of Ashington (something to do with the way locals pronounced it, I think).

Ashington was in the same parish as Longhirst back then (Bothal).

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Re: Daniel Watson Richardson and Eleanor Reed of Longbenton
« Reply #60 on: Sunday 21 January 18 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Eleanor Reed has a sister Susannah Reed, baptized Meldon, 1825.

Susan Reed, b. Meldon, is in service in 1851 and 61 census.

Susan Reed and John Joyce are on the same marriage page, Oct qtr 1866, Newcastle.

1871 census :
Fawdon Cottage, Fawdon House,  Longhirst,
John Joyce, head, mar, 51, Labourer, b. Bothal,
Susan Joyce, wife, mar, 45, b. Meldon
RG10/5167/40/10

1881 census :
Fawdon House, Longhirst,
Susan Joyce, head, wid, 54, b. Bothal,
Ann Richardson, niece, 12, b. Bothal.
RG11/5118/57/23

1891 census :
Fawdon House, Longhirst,
Susan Joyce, head, wid, 66, b. Meldon,
RG12/4259/64/25

The niece Ann Richardson in 1881 is probably the daughter of Daniel and Ellen Richardson. Her mother died the previous week.

Morpeth Herald April 9 1881 :
At Bigges Main on the 29th ult, age 47, Ellen widow of the late Mr Watson Richardson, much lamented.

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Re: Daniel Watson Richardson and Eleanor Reed of Longbenton
« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 01:06 GMT (UK) »
Eleanor Reed has a sister Susannah Reed, baptized Meldon, 1825.

Susan Reed, b. Meldon, is in service in 1851 and 61 census.

Susan Reed and John Joyce are on the same marriage page, Oct qtr 1866, Newcastle.

1871 census :
Fawdon Cottage, Fawdon House,  Longhirst,
John Joyce, head, mar, 51, Labourer, b. Bothal,
Susan Joyce, wife, mar, 45, b. Meldon
RG10/5167/40/10

1881 census :
Fawdon House, Longhirst,
Susan Joyce, head, wid, 54, b. Bothal,
Ann Richardson, niece, 12, b. Bothal.
RG11/5118/57/23

1891 census :
Fawdon House, Longhirst,
Susan Joyce, head, wid, 66, b. Meldon,
RG12/4259/64/25

The niece Ann Richardson in 1881 is probably the daughter of Daniel and Ellen Richardson. Her mother died the previous week.

Morpeth Herald April 9 1881 :
At Bigges Main on the 29th ult, age 47, Ellen widow of the late Mr Watson Richardson, much lamented.

Alan.
This is hugely helpful Alan, thank you. This is exactly the sort of back up confirmation I was looking for. I would love to know your processes and how you research. Thank you again.

Christian
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Re: Daniel Watson Richardson and Eleanor Reed of Longbenton
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 21:20 GMT (UK) »
Quick update -

I have been working through the Meldon siblings of Ellen/Eleanor Reed this afternoon, following Alans lead and likely confirmation that this is the correct family. I was hoping to be lucky and find a DNA match amongst them.

I traced Joseph Reeds descendants down several generations on My Heritage, utilising their Smartmatch function along the way and lo and behold, a DNA match from Josephs x4 great granddaughter in Australia to my Mum. Its so satisfying to set out with a purpose and utilise DNA matches this way to confirm research is correct and also to confirm assumed paternity is correct.

Thank you again to everyone in this forum for your time and help; without you I wouldn't have got to this stage.
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