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Re: Why did Charles Frost change his surname ?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 14:18 GMT (UK) »
1774 brailsford derbyshire

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Re: Why did Charles Frost change his surname ?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 15:59 GMT (UK) »
The will contains a bequest to Charles ?Cocking? son of Mary ?Cocking? Cockayne? of Blensford(Brailsford)? Derbyshire. I think Brailsford may have been spelt in the will how Charles thought it was spelt, but it's the only place in Derbyshire that I can find starting with B and ending ford, other than Bamford which it definitely isn't.
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Re: Why did Charles Frost change his surname ?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Other names in the will dated 29 August 1812, proved 23 March 1813
...my nephew Charles Ault son of my late brother Thomas Ault the sum of sixty pounds...
...Elizabeth Tompkins, Charles Ault and Charles Frost were all under 21.........
...Charles Cocking was over 21...
...all his freehold and copyhold estates in Heath and Reach to his daughter Elizabeth Ault...
...Executors John Stopp farmer of Potsgrove and James Clarke innholder of Leighton Buzzard...
...should his daughter Elizabeth die before the age of 21 her share to be split between any living children of his sisters Mary and Sarah...

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            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
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            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: Why did Charles Frost change his surname ?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 17:19 GMT (UK) »
Attached is the notice from Northampton Mercury 3 Oct 1812, naming the two executors.

Who is the Hannah his "acknowledged wife, late Hannah Tompkins widow" with children Elizabeth & Thomas ??? .

Elizabeth Tompkins of Heath was baptised 23 Aug 1795 at Leighton Buzzard, daughter of Francis & Hannah Tompkins. Francis Tompkins married Hannah Wood at LB by licence on 9 Feb 1791. They also baptised Thomas on 28 Nov 1791 & John 18 Nov 1792. If this is her when did husband Francis die?

Next ... if Charles had Hannah as wife in 1812 as per will, then where's the death of his wife Elizabeth ne Bates that he married at LB in 1793 
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Re: Why did Charles Frost change his surname ?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 22:37 GMT (UK) »
As I can't find a Charles Ault and Hannah Tompkins marriage, and given the odd wording "acknowledged wife", (what's wrong with the usual "my beloved wife Hannah"?) I seriously wonder if they were actually married. I suspect not.

If this is her when did husband Francis die?
Buried  1 Jan 1830 age 73 in Leighton Buzzard???

Nah, they weren't married and Hannah wasn't a widow. That's my somewhat cynical take on the situation! Not that this affects Susan's direct line.

David
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            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
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Re: Why did Charles Frost change his surname ?
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 16 February 17 15:26 GMT (UK) »
Could the burial of Chas HOLT on 16 Sept 1812 at Potsgrove be that for Charles AULT ?

& then the burial of Eliz wife of Chas Holt on 11 Feb 1807 at Potsgrove is his 'first' wife.
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Re: Why did Charles Frost change his surname ?
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 16 February 17 15:40 GMT (UK) »
In which case his daughter Elizabeth Ault baptised 1797 was by his wife Elizabeth, rather than his acknowledged wife Hannah.

I can't find a marriage for Charles Holt and Elizabeth in Beds, so I think your suspicion is probably right, John.
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            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Why did Charles Frost change his surname ?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 19 February 17 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all

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Re: Why did Charles Frost change his surname ?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 19 February 17 19:23 GMT (UK) »
On family search there is a marriage of a Charles Ault and an Elizabeth Bates 28th march 1793 leighton buzzard. This could hopefully be charles Ault in question.


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