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Re: Edith Emma Moore, born Rackenford, March 1865, daughter of Sarah Moore
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 February 17 20:20 GMT (UK) »
When I did the maiden name search on that 1865 - no actual mmn was shown suggesting an illegitimate birth.   Just done it again and it shows Moore - weird!!

Possible death for her father

Deaths March qtr 1870 
John   Moore  33    Tiverton    5b   366

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Re: Edith Emma Moore, born Rackenford, March 1865, daughter of Sarah Moore
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 February 17 20:30 GMT (UK) »
I think that 1870 death is the son of Elizabeth Moore (grandmother to Edith Emma)

In 1861 the Moore's also had a daughter Elizabeth who was then 21 plus Sarah who was then 16 and Emma aged 10

So Edith could have been either Elizabeth or Sarah's daughter
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Re: Edith Emma Moore, born Rackenford, March 1865, daughter of Sarah Moore
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 February 17 20:48 GMT (UK) »
See above - she was the daughter of John Moore and Eliza Moore nee Moore. The marriage was in Exeter district March q. 1864

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Re: Edith Emma Moore, born Rackenford, March 1865, daughter of Sarah Moore
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 February 17 21:16 GMT (UK) »
As Edith is with her grandmother Elizabeth Moore in 1871 she must be the daughter of their son John born 1837 Rackenford died 1870 who was a butcher in 1861.

There is an 1873 marriage in Lincolnshire - Eliza Moore & John Kirk on same page

But -  the newspaper item of Edith's marriage has her as the adopted daughter of Mr James Kirk
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Re: Edith Emma Moore, born Rackenford, March 1865, daughter of Sarah Moore
« Reply #13 on: Monday 13 February 17 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Possible death of Edith's mother given the 1873 marriage was in Boston

Deaths December qtr 1874 
Eliza Kirk 36  Boston    7a   282
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Re: Edith Emma Moore, born Rackenford, March 1865, daughter of Sarah Moore
« Reply #14 on: Monday 13 February 17 22:33 GMT (UK) »
As Edith is with her grandmother Elizabeth Moore in 1871 she must be the daughter of their son John born 1837 Rackenford died 1870 who was a butcher in 1861.

There is an 1873 marriage in Lincolnshire - Eliza Moore & John Kirk on same page

But -  the newspaper item of Edith's marriage has her as the adopted daughter of Mr James Kirk



Carole - Original post says she is described as niece of James Kirk on the 1881 census.
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Re: Edith Emma Moore, born Rackenford, March 1865, daughter of Sarah Moore
« Reply #15 on: Monday 13 February 17 22:43 GMT (UK) »
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Yes I know - that's why I posted as follows with a "But"

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But -  the newspaper item of Edith's marriage has her as the adopted daughter of Mr James Kirk

If that is Eliza's death - John Kirk may not have wanted Edith or was unable to care for her.  I wondered whether James G Kirk was John's brother

James G & his wife Sarah were both born Ireland and don't appear to have had any children of their own

The 1871 has a 40yr old unmarried John Kirk b Belfast living in lodgings in Lincs.   James G Kirk was b 1830 Drumkirk

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In 1891 James G Kirk is shown as b Belfast
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Re: Edith Emma Moore, born Rackenford, March 1865, daughter of Sarah Moore
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone

Well we have moved on since I started this thread yesterday. Yes Carol, that death of John Moore in 1870 seems to be our man.

Western Times - Friday 11 February 1870
DEATHS: MOORE, February 4, at Tiverton, Mr. John Moore, butcher, aged 33, much respected.

John Moore, was a butcher, and was 24 in 1861. So that would leave his wife Eliza, a widow in 1870.

MOORE, John, Probate: Effects under £300:
7 March 1870: The Will of John MOORE, late of Tiverton, in the County of Devon, Butcher, deceased, who died 4 February, 1870 at Angel Hill, Tiverton, aforesaid, was proved at Exeter by the oath of Richard Furze of Rackenford, in the County aforesaid, Yeoman, sole executor.


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Re: Edith Emma Moore, born Rackenford, March 1865, daughter of Sarah Moore
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Just wonder the source for that baptism of Edith Emma Moore at Tiverton in 1864?

I am now trying to search for John Moore's marriage to Eliza Moore, which appears to be in 1864 as previously mentioned. It looks like Eliza was born in Rackenford too, so probably a cousin of John. That theory about Eliza re-marrying a John Kirk, but then a parent dying, and James Kirk taking on the young child is quite feasible, but proving it is another matter.

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