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Gwilliam family, from Herefordshire - DNA results confirmation
« on: Monday 13 February 17 23:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am needing some help to clarify my DNA matching.   My GGGrandfather was Thomas Gwilliam b. 1811 at Goodrich, Herefordshire, at this time I believe that he is son of William Gwilliam & Margaret Matthews, who were married on the 1st September 1779 at Pencoyd.
I have had contact from a lady, she is 4th cousin matched to my DNA, she comes down the line of our Thomas Gwilliam's elder brother, John Gwilliam b. 1800 Goodrich.    However looking at her tree, she shows John's parents as John & Mary Gwilliam.   Now I am quite confused.
I need someone that could check out Parish Records for me please.    I have always believed that our Thomas Gwilliam had the following siblings, John B. 1800, Mary b. 1803, James 1814, William b. 1814, George b 1817 and Ann b. 1820 all born at Goodrich, except for Ann born at Hentland.

This lady's tree shows John Gwilliam as being tried for horse stealing and was given a death penalty, commuted to 14 years transport to NSW.  There are various spellings for Gwilliam, he is sometimes shown as Gullum, or Gillium, fairly normal for those early days.   However when John died at Windsor in Australia, his surname was Gullum, and this followed through with their children here in Australia.

I would really appreciate any help with the Parish records, to confirm that we are definite 4th cousins.  Thanking you.   jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Gwilliam family, from Herefordshire - DNA results confirmation
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 14:51 GMT (UK) »
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/index.php/transcript-summary

Seems to suggest that images of Goodrich are available here

You have to register, which is free.

They have transcriptions and maybe images of many surrounding parishes in Herefordshire and Monmouthshire.
I think the marriage was 1799 not 1779 :)

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Re: Gwilliam family, from Herefordshire - DNA results confirmation
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Thank mike, will check it out.
jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Gwilliam family, from Herefordshire - DNA results confirmation
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Just wondering if this is your Thomas, appearing to have a horse stealing habit as well

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3090838/3090841/25/


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Re: Gwilliam family, from Herefordshire - DNA results confirmation
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Mabel, could be our family, John Gwilliam was transported to Aust in 1832, and he sometimes changed his name to Thomas.  Bit confusing this Gwilliam family, plenty of them in Herefordshire and Wales, and the variations in spellings make it so difficult.    Our Thomas Gwilliam died in Monmouth, Wales in 1859 from T.B.   He was a Clergyman's Servant, so don't think this would be our man.
Thank you anyway Mabel, very interesting to read.
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir